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Old 16.01.2018, 08:41
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

"Toronto police say scissor attack on a girl's hijab 'did not happen'"

"Police say they are no longer seeking a suspect. During an emotional press conference last Friday, where she was accompanied her mother, Khawlah Noman said she was afraid to go back to school.

Her mother told media this was "just not Canada""

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Her mother told media this was "just not Canada""
Like she'd have a clue.
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Old 16.01.2018, 12:20
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Have a look at Scott Adams (Dilbert) and his Periscopes or his blog. While he is not a 100% Trump supporter, he thinks that Trump is a master of persuasion. Puts a lot of things into perspective...
I'm a big follower of Scott Adams and his blog. I think he makes many valuable points and helps understand and project logic and strategy into what may otherwise seem like the random actions of Trump.

His blog is probably the best reasoned argumentarium on the pro-Trump side. And it's pretty impressive.

But despite admiring Adams, I also think he sometimes takes too narrow a view and starts off with the conclusion and then taylors the arguments to meet that conclusion. If Trump supporters are going to argue the line that the big problem with liberals is that they refuse to admit they are ever wrong, even when its balatantly obvious, it's ironic when they fall into the same trap themselves.

And his posts with poor arguments devalue the ones with really good arguments too.
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Old 01.02.2018, 18:14
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Darren Osborne has been convicted of murder after he drove a van into a group of Muslims at Finsbury Park Mosque.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...der-makram-ali

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A man has been convicted of murder and attempted murder after driving a van into a group of Muslims near a north London mosque in a terrorist attack.

A jury concluded that Darren Osborne intended to kill as many Muslims as possible and had been “brainwashed” after gorging on extremist rightwing propaganda online.

A jury of eight women and four men took one hour to convict the father of four. Osborne, who had denied both charges, nodded in the dock as the verdict was read out but showed little emotion. He will be sentenced on Friday.
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Old 06.02.2018, 18:03
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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Oh.

Maajid Nawaz: We're In Denial That Child Sex Abuse Is A 'Sickness' In British Pakistani Muslim Communities

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Seems it is institutionalised in the US

Child marriage is not a thing of the past in the US: almost 250,000 children were married there between 2000 and 2010, some of them as young as 10.

And not Muslims!
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Sherry Johnson was 11 when her mother told her she was going to get married. The bridegroom was nine years older and a deacon in the strict apostolic church that her family attended.
He was also the man who had raped her and made her pregnant. “They forced me to marry him to cover up the scandal,” Johnson says
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Come on marton, stop. Everybody knows that only brown people and Muslims rape ten year olds.
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Seems it is institutionalised in the US

Child marriage is not a thing of the past in the US: almost 250,000 children were married there between 2000 and 2010, some of them as young as 10.

And not Muslims!

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I think you would find that they are mostly Muslims. Interesting quote from your article:

''Many child brides come from religious backgrounds and less privileged groups – but not all''
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Old 07.02.2018, 21:11
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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I think you would find that they are mostly Muslims. Interesting quote from your article:

''Many child brides come from religious backgrounds and less privileged groups – but not all''
I think you would find that you know very little about religion in the US. Try googling. Start with "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" and go from there. Just for fun, add "Jerry Lee Lewis" into the mix.

Random trivia: half of the states of the US effectively (after taking into account various exceptions) have no legal minimum age for marriage.
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Old 07.02.2018, 21:27
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I think you would find that they are mostly Muslims. Interesting quote from your article:

''Many child brides come from religious backgrounds and less privileged groups – but not all''
LOL! Typical opinion without even a shred of evidence to support it!

Indeed they do come from religious backgrounds; mostly Evangelists who force underage pregnant girls to marry to prevent them from seeking abortion which these idiots see as the greater sin than raping under age girls, look here or here.

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LOL! Typical opinion without even a shred of evidence to support it!
According to the group/organization mentioned throughout the article you linked, there is simply not enough information or 'evidence' on the subject, which is why I offered my view as an opinion and not a fact.

The organization base their estimates on a 2011 survey of forced marriage within immigrant communities in the US (which, incidentally, appears to suggest that Muslims are more than twice as likely to be affected by forced marriage than any other immigrant group).
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Probably it is not the best thread, but still, here is what a leading German influencer, and very credible one, Joachim Gauck, the former president, thinks:

Joachim Gauck Düsseldorf university speech
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Diversity was considered a value in itself
For a long time, the conception of multiculturalism has had a major impact on integration policy: regardless of what was hiding behind various cultures - diversity was considered a value in itself. The various cultures should exist side by side on equal terms and everybody's obedience to liberal Western values was rejected. I understand that at first glance, it may seem tolerant and cosmopolitan, when diversity is so accepted and rewarded.
But I'm scared by where such a multiculturalism has us led to.
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Vielfalt galt als Wert an sich
Einen grossen Einfluss in der Integrationspolitik hat lange Zeit die Konzeption des Multikulturalismus gehabt: Was sich auch immer hinter den einzelnen Kulturen verborgen hat – Vielfalt galt als Wert an sich. Die Kulturen der Verschiedenen sollten gleichberechtigt nebeneinander existieren, für alle verbindliche westlich-liberale Wertvorstellungen wurden abgelehnt. Ich verstehe, dass es auf den ersten Blick tolerant und weltoffen anmuten mag, wenn Vielfalt derart akzeptiert und honoriert wird. Wohin ein solcher Multikulturalismus aber tatsächlich geführt hat, das hat mich doch erschreckt.
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Old 10.02.2018, 17:22
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

A top religious cleric said Friday that women in Saudi Arabia don’t need to wear the abaya, the robe-like full body dress Saudi women are currently required to wear.

Sheikh Abdullah al-Mutlaq, a member of the Council of Senior Scholars, said on that Saudi women should dress modestly but that doesn't mean they have to wear the abaya.

More than 90 percent of women in the Muslim world do not wear the abaya, Sheikh Mutlaq noted, according to Reuters. “So we should not force people to wear abayas."

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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Sweden - doing great apparently.

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Yet it’s still hard for Swedish authorities to be frank about what’s going on. It’s widely known that gang members are mainly first- and second-generation immigrants, and problems are rampant in what police euphemistically refer to as ‘vulnerable areas’. Thus the gang wars serve as a constant reminder of Sweden’s failed migration and integration policies. This is a problem for the government (and even the opposition) in a country that prides itself on being a ‘humanitarian superpower’. And yet politicians, in government and opposition, seem particularly concerned that violence in immigrant suburbs is a PR problem, a threat to the image of Sweden, and that the remedy is spin.
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To that end, the Ministry for Foreign Affairs has launched a page on its official website, purporting to address claims that no one is making, such as ‘the high level of immigration means that the system in Sweden is on the verge of collapse’. No one says collapse; but charges of trouble or violence are hard to deny if you pick up a newspaper. Another official campaign says the ‘no-go zones’ are in fact ‘go-go zones’. Try telling that to Gordon Grattidge, head of the paramedics union Alarm/Ambulansförbundet. He once told me that members are not allowed to enter some Swedish neighbourhoods without police protection.

Firefighters face the same reality. In November, some 50 cars were torched in a garage in a mainly immigrant suburb in Uppsala.
Despite citizens repeatedly calling the emergency services, it took three hours before the fire department showed up — protected by police equipped with riot gear and machine-guns.
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Perhaps you will have read that Sweden has banned outdoor Christmas lights for religious reasons (it hasn’t); or that one of the country’s biggest shopping malls is a no-go zone for police (it isn’t); or that it’s no longer safe to go jogging after dark without an armed police escort (the local police inspector responded that “not much happens here, but people are affected by what is happening elsewhere in the world and can feel unsafe when it’s dark”). This alternative narrative about Sweden reached a peak of publicity in February 2017 when President Trump spoke at a rally in Florida about his plans to implement stricter immigration rules in the US.
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/02...came-a-symbol/
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Old 15.02.2018, 23:08
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

From the same article...
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Shortly afterward, the British nationalist politician-turned-radio host Nigel Farage backed up the US president’s words by declaring on his drive-time show that the southern Swedish city of Malmö is “now the rape capital of Europe and, some argue, perhaps it is the rape capital of the world.” In fact, since 2012 the rate of reported rapes (per 100,000 of population) in Malmö has been below the Swedish national average.


This extraordinary focus on Sweden isn’t really an attack on the country itself. It is about using Sweden as a weapon in a far wider clash of values. The “Good Sweden” reputation is built on the qualities listed by Prince William and is amplified globally by brands such as Ikea, H&M, Volvo, and Spotify. At its core is a set of progressive principles—equality, secularism, openness, and transparency—that make the country an outlier in international surveys and a thorn in the side of those who oppose the ideals of Scandinavian social democracy.
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

*Good grief* Parnell has been allowed back on the internet.
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*Good grief* Parnell has been allowed back on the internet.
I got banned for a "personal" attack consisting of posting a very common meme in the 90s - I'm sure our even handed mods will treat you with an equally firm hand.
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I got banned for a "personal" attack consisting of posting a very common meme in the 90s - I'm sure our even handed mods will treat you with an equally firm hand.
Not going to happen. The even handed mod went for a walk in Malmo and was never heard of again.
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Not going to happen. The even handed mod went for a walk in Malmo and was never heard of again.
If he returns from the dead (he's a mod so he will), send him to Hungary or Poland. That will be the end of him, I hear on EF.
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Italian elections on March 4th... doesn't seem like the Merkels of the world are too popular there:

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Flowers are still arriving at the roadside for Pamela Mastropietro. It is just over two weeks since this troubled blonde 18-year-old went missing here, only to resurface in a pair of suitcases left in a ditch.

No sooner was an illegal immigrant arrested for her killing than a local neo-fascist took it upon himself to drive around town in broad daylight shooting anyone who looked vaguely foreign.

Six African migrants were injured — though no one has left any flowers for them.
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‘It’s like being in a horror story,’ says Anna, a neighbour of the private apartment block where Pamela was murdered.

The suspected killer was paying £600 a month for a flat in a complex with a private garden, entryphones and a tidy marble hall. Like everyone else around here, Anna wonders how a failed asylum seeker could afford it.

It has been widely reported that the man was a known drug-dealer who applied for asylum and was rejected, but had simply remained in Italy.
That is confirmed to me by Macerata’s mayor, Romano Carancini, who says the migration system needs speeding up so failed asylum seekers are not left eking out a criminal existence.
I note the BBC wrote an article about the shooting by the facist scumbag but not about the murder and cutting up of the young girl which apparently triggered it.
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