Just so that you have the full picture, Cathy Newman is a Channel 4 news anchor whose direct questioning style has led to her to needing personal security twice in her recent career. Once after the Jordan Peterson interview linked by Tom, and again after her Jeremy Corbyn interview which had Momentum up in arms and led to numerous death threats on social media.

To his credit, Peterson told people who threatened Newman after his interview to "back off". Corbyn didn't

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...v-misogyny-row

I don't know if you'll agree, but I'm inclined to think that when you manage to piss off both ends of the political spectrum to such a degree, you're prabably doing something right.

The 'Are you Cathy Newman?' meme has become a way of challenging any woman who has a mind of her own, and the intellect to think several moves ahead of her 'opponent'.

But if you don't know enough about Islam, your words, then how and why are you so confident to say that 'its not the religion itself per se'?

A lack of knowledge or insight about Islam hasn‘t really deterred the constant stream of utter bullshit on here from the Muslim bashers either.

Great link - I'm very glad you remembered.

As it happens the "threats" Cathy Newman received were dwarfed by those received by Professor Peterson.

She embarrassed herself by attempting a hatchet job - and in doing so demonstrated the vacuum of intellect on the left. No surprise you're firmly in her camp.

I only remembered because I had to Google her name to find out who you were refering to. To me, she's just that blonde woman on Channel 4 news. I'm more of a Jon Snow, Robert Peston, Kay Burley, Tom Bradby person myself.

Since I was introduced to Peterson several weeks ago on this forum, I've spoken to a longtime friend who has attended quite a few of his lectures, and has spoken to him in person numerous times. I asked him if he believes Peterson to be alt-right or the darling of the alt-right. His reply was that on many occassions, Peterson has refered to the alt-right as "unevolved".

I may not know a lot, but from the Muslims that I do know, fairly devout, not so devout, I don’t believe their interpretation of religion calls for violent behavior. Same for most Catholics, other Christians and Jews.....

I’m finished here...nothing more I can say.

See post #1887 above. Newman is neither left nor right and has probably received more threats from the militant left than any other group.

Me...hadn't heard of her so hardly 'in her camp' no matter how you care to twist in the wind.

I would guess the interpretation of their religion has a lot to do with the strength of their numbers...

In any case the tide seems to be turning; there is still a long way at to go but more and more people are speaking out against Islam and the problems it entails.

There will always be a minority of leftists and fifth columnists who will hypocritically defend Islam ad infinitum and remain incapable of holding a rational discussion; but such people are simply a shrieking minority and their numbers are diminishing.

Nice. So call people who disagree with your view hypocritical, shrieking, and incapable of rational thought. Why should one bother to attempt a rational discussion? To what end?

Are you a former Muslim? Have you been injured in some way by Muslims? Such enmity suggests an ax to grind.

There is no discussion. Just a continual bleat that "Islam is a problem". Anyone daring to point out the glaring lack of substance to it is labeled a "leftist". I think the word is being confused with "realist".

I guess their holy grail solution (pardon the medieval choice of award) is to ban Islam.

I'm embarrassed for the friends I have as Muslims who are loving, open, cultured, tolerant and would put most of the furious finger-jabbing gammons shouting for their downfall in the shade as human beings.

Shame really.

No I'm not a former Muslim - but I did fast through Ramadan with friends a few times

I simply grew up knowing a lot of Muslims (obviously they're not all bad people, far from it) but I did see a lot of problems in their community, moved to Europe and saw the exact same problems.

I then saw a political class who is too scared to take any meaningful action, and I a reluctance in people to admit and discuss these problems - understandably, as anyone that does talk about such problems has their name dragged through the mud.

What action (meaningful or otherwise) are you expecting them to take?

Or rather, what action would make you happy and say "Yes, now I feel the problems I have with Islam have been properly solved, I can now go on with my life."

We have already heard from KK and a couple of others, its clear to them that Islam is incompatible with western values and culture and has no place in Europe or the rest of the Western world.

Or simply put, to those people there is no solution, it just involves more fear mongering and finger pointing, ad infinitum. Quite frankly this thread is ridiculous no one here is a theologist, I doubt anyone here has studied social anthropology and views swing from left to right, to downright bigoted.

In fairness, I'm not expecting a specific answer to the question beyond a rehash of the "incompatible with western values" mantra. No solutions just a "nobody is sorting it out for me". I guess asking difficult questions to get someone to actually think about the solution instead of whining about the problem labels me a leftist.

I am going to whine that I'm hungry but I'll get a bit leery when someone asks me what I should actually do about it. That involves thinking and possibly some action (unfortunately).

"fifth columnists"? Now who is incapable of a rational discussion?

Going back to the thread title, just one terror attack in Europe in the last 6 months; we will be able to close this thread soon

What point? I just find it funny! Feminists and gays are the first to jump to defend muslim immigrants but forget that they are punishable with death penalty according to sharia law.

Are you serious? Are you really comparing centuries-old radical interpretations of the bible with that of the quran by Muslims today ?!

Of course there are good Muslim people who do not follow the more than 100 verses that preach violence on non believers. But, out of 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, a "tiny minority" estimated between 200 million to 400 million do literally follow the quran: