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French far right looking to lead the election

Anyone else following the French Elections? Sadly only 43% even voted but the Far right seems to be gaining a lot of ground.
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Anyone else following the French Elections? Sadly only 43% even voted but the Far right seems to be gaining a lot of ground.
I know it doesn't make sense from the point of view of thread title, but we're already discussing it on this thread

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I know it doesn't make sense from the point of view of thread title, but we're already discussing it on this thread

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ahhh wouldn't have guessed the 2 where combined, sorry
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Re: French far right looking to lead the election

Finally a voice of reason in the west. Even more importantly, a nice voice of reason, and even more, young.

Go Marion!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion..._and_EU_issues

"Foreign policy and EU issues

She is a member of the parliamentary friendship groups France–Russia[36] and France−Ivory Coast.[37]

On 10 December 2012, she took part in an international parliamentary forum organized at Moscow by the State Duma.[38] On 22 January 2013, she was present in the Reichstag at the commemoration of the fiftieth anniversary of the signing of the Élysée Treaty by French President Charles de Gaulle and German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer.[39] In a written statement, she claimed that this Treaty was originally based on the cooperation and partnership between two sovereign states and denounced the "forced march towards a German federal Europe".[40]

On 29 September 2013, she attended a political event organized by the Vlaams Belang in Boom, near Antwerp. On this occasion, she explained : "It is important that a front of patriotic and euro-critical parties form in sight of European elections, which is the case, and get some good results in order to lead resistance to Euro and globalism".[41]"
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nice pair of knockers
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nice pair of knockers
If that is the level of the debate, I'm sure Trump has got a nice pair of moobs
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can you explain your groan, esto?

or is it just usual stalking on the forum?
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can you explain your groan, esto?

or is it just usual stalking on the forum?
Technically speaking, stalking is an explanation.

For the Front National, it's the usual SVP/UDC-like rhetoric. If one can live with it in Switzerland (happy or not is another question), I am sure the French will survive it too. Furthermore, it's only the regions... it matters when it comes to distribute financial support from Europe and other money pots, and it might be interesting in high schools. But nothing like in a federal state.
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haha usual suspects, serial groaners

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Re: French far right looking to lead the election

I wonder how much clientelism is present in French politics - how many gov't posts, state companies, institutions, subsidies etc depend on the winner. Is it a factor in the outcry?
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I wonder how much clientelism is present in French politics?
In the regions and departements, it's huge. I qualify it as a life style. At higher state level, things are more complex... it's also a way to secure people's career while keeping them ready for politics. Some see it as negative, others as positive.

But it's not about actual powers or future political but local decisions. It's about building up the necessary structure and support for presidential elections. And that matters a lot in France.

Furthermore, it will change the tone of the debate in the media. French media is largely intellectual based and led, so that means a lot of arguments about concept manipulation and fallacies all kinds of journalists, experts, people from the steeet and philosophers will throw at each other's face. Kind of funny for a while but it might become very dominant.
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Anyone else following the French Elections? Sadly only 43% even voted but the Far right seems to be gaining a lot of ground.
Well whatever the outcome at least they (FN) might at least add to the balance of opinion for debate in these troubled times.
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Re: French far right looking to lead the election

They definitely tilted French politics to the right. It got socialists voting conservative. Beauty.

It also makes clear the EU utopian experiment isn't paradise.

In democracies, it is very important to challenge the establishment. Otherwise, the establishment will exercise carte blanche authority, which they are doing now. An FN win somewhere would have kept them more honest.
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They definitely tilted French politics to the right. It got socialists voting conservative. Beauty.
That's just the beginning.

The FN's upsurge has been a serious warning shot and the Republicans are likely to cut a more rightist course to curb the FN.

So you could say the FN is getting their way without being in power, but if things don't work out it was the others who did it and will bear the political blame.
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