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parnell · #**321** 12.01.2016, 10:51

Normally I would agree with u Phos until I discovered a youtuber called "AngryForeigner"...

- he's mildly left-wing
- he's a refugee himself from the Balkan war in Sweden
- he's tremendously articulate and intelligent
- delights in pointing out that absurdity is also part of the modern centre-right as well as all shades left

How does this work?

parnell · #**322** 12.01.2016, 11:08

Well now... fancy that...

Sweden now faces political crisis as a result of alledged mass sexual assault by migrants cover-up... funny thing as the reported sexual assault rate by migrants in Sweden is already some 20 times that of natives :

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/77523...#axzz3wvUIZ0tD

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	Swedish police promised an urgent investigation into the claims first reported by liberal newspaper Dagens Nyheter that a gang of youths — reportedly mostly from Afghanistan — groped and molested girls as young as 11 or 12 at the We Are Sthlm festival in both 2014 and 2015.

CorsebouTheReturn · #**323** 12.01.2016, 11:14

	Quote:	Sbrinz
	The groping and rapes by Africans and Arabs is abhorrent, but let us not forget that Japanese and Indian women suffer every day in the crowded commuter trains. Different cultures, but the same result.

Hm in India the women have dedicated wagons...
(which is not a point against your post, but a clarification):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-only_passenger_car

I don't know if it's widespread or if there are many, but on the trains I saw they always had wagon. And yes it's bad to arrive to that state of segregation but it's apparently well needed there.

#**324** 12.01.2016, 11:22

	Quote:	amogles
	She's very much into LGBT rights and women's rights and I explained to here that these things are at risk and I think this made her change her views (over time). It is important to talk to people and try and open their minds and show them that left wing values are at risk here too.

They really should be concerned before they get celebratory. When the pendulum swings to the right, all the apparatus used for mind control today could be vestiges used for purposes against their objectives.

I find many left wing values admirable and noble, when applied personally, but not enforced politically. Yet those values were not conjured up from thin air. Their foundations are based on the civilization that has been developed. What I find destructive is the mindless rush to undo and negate established civilized values. I assume the point they actually start nurturing civilized value is the moment they actually become conservative.

Sbrinz · #**325** 12.01.2016, 11:23

Some Indian trains have one wagon, not all. My point is that these subtle attacks are everywhere where the men can get close to a trapped woman. It also happens on the London underground.

#**326** 12.01.2016, 11:25

	Quote:	parnell
	Normally I would agree with u Phos until I discovered a youtuber called "AngryForeigner"... - he's mildly left-wing - he's a refugee himself from the Balkan war in Sweden - he's tremendously articulate and intelligent - delights in pointing out that absurdity is also part of the modern centre-right as well as all shades left

Okay, point taken that "left-wing" is not synonymous with "stupid". If only more would honestly call out "stupid" when they see it.

Russkov · #**327** 12.01.2016, 11:28

	Quote:	Medea Fleecestealer
	"Sometimes we do not really say how things are because we believe it may play into the hands of the Sweden Democrats," Mr Agren told Dagens Nyheter, referring to Sweden's right-wing anti-immigration party. Mr Gyllander also conceded that the issue may have been a factor. He said: "These days, the level of discussion is very harsh, and it's very aggressive when it comes to discussing the matter of refugees and foreigners. I think that all of us are very careful how we express ourselves."

Ugh. I'm sure the women who got assaulted feel just great about that.

#**328** 12.01.2016, 11:36

There are people in authority who have sentiments like this:

German Interior Minister: Right-Wing Chat Rooms ‘At Least As Awful As’ Cologne Sex Attacks

So free speech is just as bad as sex attacks and marauding swarms of culprits?

CorsebouTheReturn · #**329** 12.01.2016, 11:46

	Quote:	Sbrinz
	Some Indian trains have one wagon, not all. My point is that these subtle attacks are everywhere where the men can get close to a trapped woman. It also happens on the London underground.

Hu! Where some "uneducated" or "dodgy" men...

Which is also the problem with the influx of basically "anyone".

kriss kross · #**330** 12.01.2016, 11:47

	Quote:	Sbrinz
	Some Indian trains have one wagon, not all. My point is that these subtle* attacks are everywhere where the men can get close to a trapped woman. It also happens on the London underground.*

I wouldn't use the word 'subtle' to describe the events on NYE.

CorsebouTheReturn · #**331** 12.01.2016, 11:54

	Quote:	Phos
	There are people in authority who have sentiments like this: German Interior Minister: Right-Wing Chat Rooms ‘At Least As Awful As’ Cologne Sex Attacks So free speech is just as bad as sex attacks and marauding swarms of culprits?

I think the guy's German and there is something about repressing themselves to admit the harsh reality for fear of being called nazi or something.

But yeah let's be clear what that guy just allegedly said is horrible and if true, he should be forced to resign.

But we all know the policitians are acting to preserve their own interests, not to defend the citizen.

Morality: Women, don't get rape*, you are on your own, and anyway it's not a big deal. It's less worse than someone posting negative things on internet!

*Anyway it's easy: simply walk within arms's length distance off men. (Henriette Reker, 2016)

amogles · #**332** 12.01.2016, 12:06

	Quote:	CorsebouTheReturn
	I think the guy's German and there is something about repressing themselves to admit the harsh reality for fear of being called nazi or something. But yeah let's be clear what that guy just allegedly said is horrible and if true, he should be forced to resign. But we all know the policitians are acting to preserve their own interests, not to defend the citizen. Morality: Women, don't get rape, you are on your own, and anyway it's not a big deal. It's less worse than someone posting negative things on internet! Anyway it's easy: simply walk within arms's length distance off men. (Henriette Reker, 2016)

This is just amazing.

Some years ago there was a public outcry in Germany when it emerged that the president had received about three roof tiles for his house from a donor, and he was forced to resign. And now somebody says people should rather be raping women than posting stuff on facebook and there is deafening silence.

esto · #**333** 12.01.2016, 14:02

...moving on to Leipzig: last night right-wing protesters clashed with right-wing protesters. German society becomes fragmented and angry. No surprise, this was foreseen to happen months ago when Merkel opened the doors to Germany wide open... It's like watching a car crash in slow-motion.

	Quote:
	Over 200 masked right-wing supporters, carrying placards with racist overtones, went on a rampage in the eastern city of Leipzig on Monday night, throwing fireworks, breaking windows and vandalizing buildings, police said. Emotions are running high in German cities after gangs of young migrant men sexually assaulted women at New Year in mass attacks in Cologne and other towns. The police put the right-wingers in a bus which was then attacked by left-wing supporters

greenmount · #**334** 12.01.2016, 14:05

What happened with the left-wing supporters who attacked the right-wing supporters then?

amogles · #**335** 12.01.2016, 14:10

	Quote:	greenmount
	What happened with the left-wing supporters who attacked the right-wing supporters then?

They were given medals of honour by Merkel.

http://www.giessener-anzeiger.de/wir...s_14030571.htm

esto · #**336** 13.01.2016, 07:44

	Quote:
	As a Pakistani journalist working in Germany, I have been very skeptical about the German government's decision to allow thousands of refugees into the country without much scrutiny of their backgrounds. Of course, I am empathetic towards the plight of the people who are fleeing war-torn countries like Syria, ... But at the same time, I was sure that the migrants' influx would ultimately disturb the harmony and balance of German society. I feel that Islamic culture and European norms are not compatible. ... What happened in Cologne happens regularly in my homeland, Pakistan. The men are never ashamed, never feel guilty, never show remorse about the way they treat women in that part of the world. ... German society is changing, with right-wing Christian as well as Islamic groups getting stronger by the day. It is an alarming situation for the majority of secular people in Germany and Europe.

http://www.dw.com/en/opinion-cologne...res/a-18971622

This Pakistani journalist based in Germany seems to have a good read on the situation and sums it up quite well.

#**337** 13.01.2016, 09:47

Stern have decided to start trolling. "Why are so many North Africans in Germany criminals?"

Sbrinz · #**338** 13.01.2016, 10:15

I think during the carnival season the people of Cologne & Hamburg etc should dress in Burqas and go about groping young Arab looking men, especially between their legs.

#**339** 13.01.2016, 10:18

The Merkelites are pushing to change laws for faster deportation. Obvious attempt to assuage the rude awakenings. But how could it work if they don't know where to deport them to, and if they would be accepted back? Are people buying Merkel's "tough stance" performance?

Patxi · #**340** 13.01.2016, 10:19

	Quote:	Sbrinz
	I think during the carnival season the people of Cologne & Hamburg etc should dress in Burqas and go about groping young Arab looking men, especially between their legs.

Whatever floats your boat