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...we did once have a discussion about the effectiveness of walls, fences and barricades didn't we? well, don't want to say i told you so...but i did...
yes, absolutely, cue footage of migrants trying to break through a non-wall with a battering ram
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Only a matter of time before live ammunition gets used.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35687257
What would be your reaction if such shootings were to occur?pray tell...
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Jesus Christ, this again.

I would say, serves you bloody right. If you're stupid enough to enter somewhere on pain of violence after being warned plenty of times of what will happen, then it's you're own fault. In the same way I have no sympathy for drug mules who get the death sentence in the far east.
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Old 29.02.2016, 13:52
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For a leader to crack under the responsibility of office and go off their rocker is not unheard of.

What I find more disconcerting is the silence or approval of the people around her, the major parties, the media, the entire machine. Nobody is willing to be tough on Merkel and her friends but everybody is happy to bleat down her critics.

The dynamics of the whole thing are reminiscent of old world Fascism.
Germany, like many Western countries, is facing a major problem of an ageing population.
Bringing in young migrants is, in principle, a good idea to solve the problem of financing pensions.

If you bring in a million migrants then you have to accept there will also be some criminals included in the mix.
Look at "law abiding" Switzerland; for every million Swiss nationals there are around 200 convicted Swiss national criminals.
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Jesus Christ, this again.

I would say, serves you bloody right. If you're stupid enough to enter somewhere on pain of violence after being warned plenty of times of what will happen, then it's you're own fault. In the same way I have no sympathy for drug mules who get the death sentence in the far east.
The Third Commandment of the christian bible says thus “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”
I just wanted you to confirm what you said previously thats all...
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The Third Commandment of the christian bible says thus “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”
I just wanted you to confirm what you said previously thats all...
Good thing I don't believe in that then, isn't it?
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Good thing I don't believe in that then, isn't it?
you heathen you!
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Old 29.02.2016, 15:08
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Germany, like many Western countries, is facing a major problem of an ageing population.
Bringing in young migrants is, in principle, a good idea to solve the problem of financing pensions.

If you bring in a million migrants then you have to accept there will also be some criminals included in the mix.
Look at "law abiding" Switzerland; for every million Swiss nationals there are around 200 convicted Swiss national criminals.
Britain has over time and on a yearly average over the last 30 or whatever years taken in more migrants than Germany.

But for the most part they arrived in an orderly manner and at a rate that made meaningful integration feasible.

Despite this, there have been pretty tough debates about migration and these debates have at times influenced government policy.

Germany is doing the opposite. they are taking in numbers far beyond what can be managed and shutting their ears and eyes to any criticism.
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Old 29.02.2016, 16:40
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What would be your reaction if such shootings were to occur?pray tell...
And what would yours be?

A lot of politicians in Germany would be eating their humble pie, after having fallen over that AfD woman for suggesting it.

Now imagine what would happen if one of them were to have to take responsibility for it actually happening on their watch.

It's called trying to get out of a hole by digging deeper.
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Old 29.02.2016, 20:11
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The Third Commandment of the christian bible says thus “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”
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When people take religion too seriously, like spewing quotes from whatever "holy book", then it seems wars hatred, killing, etc. isn't too far behind. Which is why I'm very glad EU has gotten pat it's dark ages and is now much more "relaxed" when it comes to religion. The Middle East on the other hand....
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Merkel spelled out her motivation to keep Germany's borders open without limits on refugees, a goal many in her own country and coalition government openly disagree with.
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She said, however, that she saw nothing that would prompt her to change course. Commenting on her plan, Merkel, a trained scientist, said: "It's all well thought through. It's logical."
http://www.reuters.com/article/germa...-idUSL8N16817F

Merkel is "doubling down" and now openly going against the will of the people of Germany with her "limitless migrant" plan. And I fail to see the "logic" in it? To invite infinite amounts of people into your country, especially ones of a very different culture, is going to reach a breaking point eventually, in terms of both money and culture-clashes. As Merkel is a "trained scientist", it looks to me like she is making "social engineering experiments" rather than logic-based decisions
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Old 01.03.2016, 23:00
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For a leader to crack under the responsibility of office and go off their rocker is not unheard of.

What I find more disconcerting is the silence or approval of the people around her, the major parties, the media, the entire machine. Nobody is willing to be tough on Merkel and her friends but everybody is happy to bleat down her critics.

The dynamics of the whole thing are reminiscent of old world Fascism.
According to an opinion poll by ARD today, Merkel's popularity is now up 8 points.
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According to an opinion poll by ARD today, Merkel's popularity is now up 8 points.
Everything must be great then. The champagne corks must be flying in the Kanzleramt.
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Everything must be great then. The champagne corks must be flying in the Kanzleramt.
Not great but slowly improving.

General opinion seems to be that while the refugees get a lot of media coverage in fact most people in Germany are more concerned with other matters like the economy and the job market.

Meanwhile, approval ratings fell from 46 percent to 38 percent for Horst Seehofer, the Bavarian state premier and leader of the Christian Social Union (CSU), which is the sister party to Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU) who was a big critic of Merkel's refugee policy.

Surprisingly, her biggest supporters on the refugee crisis were in the opposition Green Party: some 67 percent of them are happy with the way she is dealing with the issue.
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Old 02.03.2016, 01:13
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Not great but slowly improving.

General opinion seems to be that while the refugees get a lot of media coverage in fact most people in Germany are more concerned with other matters like the economy and the job market.
for now ... until the next Cologne

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Meanwhile, approval ratings fell from 46 percent to 38 percent for Horst Seehofer, the Bavarian state premier and leader of the Christian Social Union (CSU), which is the sister party to Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU) who was a big critic of Merkel's refugee policy.
well, he was trying to pull an SVP by playing at being opposition while being in government, only he hasn't mastered that game as well as the SVP ... ironic seeing Blocher actually says Strauss was his great example and role model ... the very same Strauss who was the father of the modern CSU and Seehofer's long time predecessor.

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Surprisingly, her biggest supporters on the refugee crisis were in the opposition Green Party: some 67 percent of them are happy with the way she is dealing with the issue.
Same as with the Fukushima thing. She might as well switch parties.
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for now ... until the next Cologne



well, he was trying to pull an SVP by playing at being opposition while being in government, only he hasn't mastered that game as well as the SVP ... ironic seeing Blocher actually says Strauss was his great example and role model ... the very same Strauss who was the father of the modern CSU and Seehofer's long time predecessor.



Same as with the Fukushima thing. She might as well switch parties.
"until the next Cologne" Maybe, Germany is a big country. Probably most people have never visited Cologne nor plan to and they see big cities as dens of vice anyway
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Not great but slowly improving.

General opinion seems to be that while the refugees get a lot of media coverage in fact most people in Germany are more concerned with other matters like the economy and the job market.
Actual LOL. Who did they ask? Merkel and her close friends and family? Better still, are you able to provide a link?

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Surprisingly, her biggest supporters on the refugee crisis were in the opposition Green Party: some 67 percent of them are happy with the way she is dealing with the issue.
This is no surprise.
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Found it, ok one survey carried out by ARD released following an interview conducted by ARD. Only a thousand people were asked.

The only survey that matters is the state elections in two weeks time.

http://www.dw.com/en/merkels-approva...ove/a-19083943
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Look at "law abiding" Switzerland; for every million Swiss nationals there are around 200 convicted Swiss national criminals.
You seem to use annual convictions. The ratio of convicted criminals is probably more like 5-10 times that (filter for repeat offenders).
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Found it, ok one survey carried out by ARD released following an interview conducted by ARD. Only a thousand people were asked.

The only survey that matters is the state elections in two weeks time.

http://www.dw.com/en/merkels-approva...ove/a-19083943
"Only a thousand people were asked." Please do tell us what would be the statistically significant sample size of people to ask?
So far as I remember statistics a sample of 1,000 would give a confidence level of under 3; depends on your assumptions, of course. I assumed that only people eligible to vote would asked (60 million?).

"The only survey that matters is the state elections in two weeks time." According to ARD most people in Germany are more concerned with other matters like the economy and the job market; so the election will not be about refugees.
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