Arab gang assaults in Germany - Page 5

#81 06.01.2016, 17:18

Ahhh the memories .. Slough Tescos!
I worked in Langley for a while back around 2001

	Quote:	Blueangel
	For the time being, I suspect that will be the case, but hopefully assimilation will happen sooner rather than later. My perception of different races is skewed because of where I was raised. Most new immigrants gravitate towards the larger cities. By the time black or Asian people moved to my home town, they were usually professional people and first generation, so the black and Asian kids I grew up with were the children of doctors, solicitors, etc... It was only in the '90's, with the arrival of young Kurdish (mostly male) refugees, that any issues arose. Then I moved to a tiny village where the nearest shopping centre is Slough. That was a huge culture shock for me because suddenly I was being verbally abused in Tesco by groups of little Asian grannys for wearing a low cut top. I actually changed the way I dressed when I did my weekly shop because I couldn't be bothered with hassle, or drove a little further out to another branch.

Blueangel · #82 06.01.2016, 17:27

	Quote:	John_H
	Ahhh the memories .. Slough Tescos! I worked in Langley for a while back around 2001

I moved here from Horton, so you know exactly what I mean by small village

Chuff · #83 06.01.2016, 17:33

Daily Fail article on another eyewitness account and local council statements... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...a-females.html

	Quote:
	'At around 11pm we were at the main train station and wanted to travel on to see the fireworks, and that was when we first noticed all these men standing around. 'We managed to go into the cathedral and wanted to go past the Museum Ludwig to join everyone and watch the fireworks by the river, but suddenly we were surrounded by a group of between 20 and 30 men.' Sensing danger, she and her friends then grabbed each other and started holding hands. 'They were full of anger, and we had to make sure that none of us were pulled away by them. They were groping us and we were trying to get away as quickly as possible.' As they fled and were groped, the men also took the opportunity to rob objects from their pockets, stealing mobile telephones as the teenage girls fled. [...] Her testimony comes as the city's own council has admitted the town centre is now a 'no-go area' for women, while protesters angered by authorities' alleged inaction held demonstrations last night. [...] Michelle's harrowing testimony comes as Cologne city councillor Judith Wolter wrote a letter urging people to avoid the city centre after declaring it unsafe 'for women' in the wake of the attacks. Mrs Wolter, a council group leader and opposition councillor, also warned the upcoming carnival should be considered equally dangerous. She wrote: 'The area in and around the central station, the cathedral and the adjoining area towards the banks of the Rhine can be for tourists [and locals] no longer considered - even in normal times - as safe.'

Urs Max · #84 06.01.2016, 17:57

	Quote:	Chuff
	Also read the posts in this thread by a member called lyricist, he was there with two women, wrote his eyewitness account, and said it was almost all refugees doing the molesting http://www.redcafe.net/threads/new-y...ologne.413325/

I'm not convinced if he's much trustworthy. If the whole night had been "incredibly dangerous", as he says, why did they stay in first place? Women usually are prone to avoid dangerous situations, wouldn't the two girlfriends typically have insisted on going someplace else?

#85 06.01.2016, 18:14

	Quote:	lorena1
	Syrian, or not, the scale of this attack seems unprecedented for Germany. Not sure how one can be prepared for violations of that size.

I think there certainly is a way to be prepared for such a thing. For one, be soberly aware of the cultural dynamics of the situation. And for that, they were well aware of these things. That exact same behavior has been reported in refugee centers, where women, children and even German volunteers have been raped. Yet the stories were covered up. Common, even people in Sweden, Denmark and Norway are well aware.

They apparently they tried to downplay this one as well. It took about 5 days for it to reach full news saturation. And then all of a sudden, Merkel blames the city government, and De Maziere blames the Koeln Police.

Lots of hipocrisy with this that is not easily glossed over.

amogles · #86 06.01.2016, 18:23

	Quote:	Phos
	And then all of a sudden, Merkel blames the city government, and De Maziere blames the Koeln Police.

It's already a big change when they need to start throwing their own buddies and fellow Merkelites under the bus rather than just the usual unwanted Pegida Untermenschen and Hungarian mud-peasants.

When a political system needs to turn on its own it's often a sign of insecurity and doubt on the leadership level.

Mikers · #87 06.01.2016, 18:30

	Quote:	Urs Max
	I'm not convinced if he's much trustworthy. If the whole night had been "incredibly dangerous", as he says, why did they stay in first place? Women usually are prone to avoid dangerous situations, wouldn't the two girlfriends typically have insisted on going someplace else?

You could be right - why did they stay in this case ? sounds like something fishy here, someone is making it up a bit perhaps ? maybe they wanted to be there, really. You know what they are like, these local birds, practically begging for it really so I've been told.

etc etc.

Meanwhile, the Police are at a loss with so many distressed women asking them for help when they are out numbered massively.

#88 06.01.2016, 18:31

The playing down of the story tells you that they weren't particularly upset this happened, nor sorry for the girls, nor any real remorse. They were just upset because people found out, it flies the in face of their agenda and refutes all the bs they've been serving up to the public.

I mean, sorry for the atmosphere in that society now, but I do enjoy it when the plans of the powerful are exposed and thwarted.

All of a sudden, they will try to put on a performance as concerned citizens, without doing anything, really.

I guess the silly charade is kind of entertaining.

Urs Max · #89 06.01.2016, 19:07

	Quote:	Phos
	I think there certainly is a way to be prepared for such a thing. For one, be soberly aware of the cultural dynamics of the situation. And for that, they were well aware of these things. That exact same behavior has been reported in refugee centers, where women, children and even German volunteers have been raped. Yet the stories were covered up. Common, even people in Sweden, Denmark and Norway are well aware. They apparently they tried to downplay this one as well. It took about 5 days for it to reach full news saturation. And then all of a sudden, Merkel blames the city government, and De Maziere blames the Koeln Police. Lots of hipocrisy with this that is not easily glossed over.

Bullshit. It couldn't be more obvious you have no clue Phos.

Sorry, the articles are in German.
Jan 1: first article
Jan 2: next one
and so on

You have no case without a report, and many victims didn't file one initially.

Urs Max · #90 06.01.2016, 19:12

	Quote:	Mikers
	You could be right - why did they stay in this case ? sounds like something fishy here, someone is making it up a bit perhaps ? maybe they wanted to be there, really. You know what they are like, these local birds, practically begging for it really so I've been told. etc etc. Meanwhile, the Police are at a loss with so many distressed women asking them for help when they are out numbered massively.

That implies his description is accurate. I think the other way round is much more likely. He may simply be too upset about the groping that probably did happen for him to to be able to react somewhat rationally.

slammer · #91 06.01.2016, 19:23

If it quacks like a duck and craps like a duck…
Instances are legion, female housing agent in Bavaria with a potential customer who demands to speak to a man and how dare she look at him with eyes that are not downcast. Guess where the "customer" came from, there are loads of stories like this, some even in serious news outlets.
So what do you have?
Young males filled with testosterone and the common sense god (or Allah) gave a bag of hammers hailing from a culture where sexuality is regressed with females on the back burner, some of them guys are seeing a woman's leg for the first time don´t forget. Then let them loose in Germany. Uff the upcoming carnival will be a nightmare, mark my words.
In fact some politician (don´t remember who) said not so long ago that this kind of behavior would most likely take place, poor guy must feel vindicated now after the liberalala press tore him to bits.

#92 06.01.2016, 19:26

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Bullshit. It couldn't be more obvious you have no clue Phos. Sorry, the articles are in German. Jan 1: first article Jan 2: next one and so on You have no case without a report, and many victims didn't file one initially.

And your bullshit and cluelessness is not seeing clearly what is playing out, or plain dishonesty. Here, the ZDF chief apologizes for "misjudging" the situation.
http://www.bild.de/news/inland/news-...8670.bild.html

Or "misjudging" the political blowback. The attempted coverup failed.

I think its progress for people to name it for what it is:
Der frühere Bundesinnenminister Hans-Peter Friedrich (CSU) sprach gar von einem angeblichen „Schweigekartell“ und „Nachrichtensperren“.

reteretere · #93 06.01.2016, 19:38

Where are the German police? German military? German men/fathers/brothers of these women?

Starting to think this is the beginning of a good porn movie.

amogles · #94 06.01.2016, 19:51

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Bullshit. It couldn't be more obvious you have no clue Phos. Sorry, the articles are in German. Jan 1: first article Jan 2: next one and so on You have no case without a report, and many victims didn't file one initially.

This is local media. National level media took much longer to pick this up and probably wouldn't have if it hadn't got out of hand.

A lot of stuff appears in local media that doesn't make it nationally. In the past before the Internets people didn't look beyond their own region and couldn't join up the dots. These days evil people are sharinmg local stories nationally and internaltionally.

Chuff · #95 06.01.2016, 20:15

	Quote:	Urs Max
	That implies his description is accurate. I think the other way round is much more likely.

Of course, god forbid you be honest with yourself.

Chuff · #96 06.01.2016, 21:38

Channel 4 news now reporting that the same happened in Dusseldorf, Hamburg and Stuttgart, almost in a co-ordinated fashion. I also read Stockholm suffered similar things on a smaller scale.

Sources:

http://newobserveronline.com/mass-in...tgart-hamburg/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...acks/78348500/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...a-females.html

Media sources in Germany have said they have been told not to report on race or use "inflammatory" language... clearly the government are in a panic about this.

Wollishofener · #97 06.01.2016, 21:52

The "THOUSANDS" have become a few dozens -- and the KöLN police forces are checking their failures

Medea Fleecestealer · #98 06.01.2016, 21:57

	Quote:	Chuff
	Channel 4 news now reporting that the same happened in Dusseldorf, Hamburg and Stuttgart, almost in a co-ordinated fashion. I also read Stockholm suffered similar things on a smaller scale. Sources: http://newobserveronline.com/mass-in...tgart-hamburg/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...acks/78348500/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...a-females.html Media sources in Germany have said they have been told not to report on race or use "inflammatory" language... clearly the government are in a panic about this.

They're a bit slow then.

From PhilMCR's BBC link of 5th Jan:

"In Hamburg several women told police that gangs of men had molested and robbed them on New Year's Eve on the Reeperbahn - a street known for its boisterous night life.
Some similar attacks were reported in Stuttgart."

Chuff · #99 06.01.2016, 21:59

	Quote:	Medea Fleecestealer
	They're a bit slow then. From PhilMCR's BBC link of 5th Jan: "In Hamburg several women told police that gangs of men had molested and robbed them on New Year's Eve on the Reeperbahn - a street known for its boisterous night life. Some similar attacks were reported in Stuttgart."

Ahh ok, I was reading it on my mobile device so I sometimes miss a few details. If anything it's just more confirmation of the reports.

Belgianmum · #**100** 06.01.2016, 22:20

	Quote:	John_H
	Ahhh the memories .. Slough Tescos! I worked in Langley for a while back around 2001

That was the new Tesco, you should have seen the old one.