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13.04.2016, 12:13
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | I think Holocaust is the name for the genocide by the Nazi, not a general term. | | | | | The origin of the word ‘Holocaust”. http://warisacrime.org/node/41250 | Quote: |  | | | The term holocaust originally derived from the Greek word holókauston, meaning "completely (holos), burnt (kaustos)" ...
Elie Wiesel is sometimes credited with having coined the word in the late 1950s in its modern sense as a noun referring specifically to the Nazi genocide of Jews. However, the word (in this sense) was not widely used till after the airing of the TV miniseries in 1978 entitled "Holocaust". | | | | | | This user would like to thank Chuff for this useful post: | | 
13.04.2016, 12:21
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | I think Holocaust is the name for the genocide by the Nazi, not a general term.
Yes, I wonder how long it takes for somebody to suggest exporting the elderly.
I forgot to add the link on the withdrawal by Die Grünen - here it is, article in German of course. | | | | | If they export them on SBB trains just make sure it's not at a time which will inconvenience the commuters. | This user would like to thank stupot for this useful post: | | 
28.04.2016, 15:06
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany Reportedly one of those involved with the New Years Eve events got arrested by swiss police:
He and a friend stole stuff worth €24 in the Lago center in Konstanz, which a private detective saw, he followed them across the border to an apartment in Kreuzlingen. The german authorities inormed the swiss, who sent police to capture and arrest the two. One policemen recognized one of the two as being sought for due to the events in Cologne.
He's expected to be handed over to german police. The article calls him a 'leader' during New Years Eve event, which implies organized action, though no further info is provided. So far 153 suspects have been identified.
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28.04.2016, 18:50
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | Reportedly one of those involved with the New Years Eve events got arrested by swiss police:
He and a friend stole stuff worth €24 in the Lago center in Konstanz, which a private detective saw, he followed them across the border to an apartment in Kreuzlingen. The german authorities inormed the swiss, who sent police to capture and arrest the two. One policemen recognized one of the two as being sought for due to the events in Cologne.
He's expected to be handed over to german police. The article calls him a 'leader' during New Years Eve event, which implies organized action, though no further info is provided. So far 153 suspects have been identified. | | | | | "The article calls him a 'leader' "
"an apartment in Kreuzlingen"
"recognized one of the two as being sought for due to the events in Cologne. "
So not one of the new wave of immigrants living in a refugee centre in Germany? Surely cannot be true! | 
29.04.2016, 10:21
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | So not one of the new wave of immigrants living in a refugee centre in Germany? | | | | | Does it matter?
What matters is that Europe finally needs to get its act together and take much more serious efforts to get rid of such scum. If serious criminal activity has been proven these subjects must be sent back to their home countries including a life-long ban to ever enter a European country again.
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29.04.2016, 11:09
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | Does it matter?
What matters is that Europe finally needs to get its act together and take much more serious efforts to get rid of such scum. If serious criminal activity has been proven these subjects must be sent back to their home countries including a life-long ban to ever enter a European country again. | | | | | He was not living in the EU, he was living in Switzerland | 
29.04.2016, 13:20
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | He was not living in the EU, he was living in Switzerland  | | | | | As much as some would love if it were otherwise, Switzerland is indeed part of Europe.
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29.04.2016, 13:29
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | As much as some would love if it were otherwise, Switzerland is indeed part of Europe. | | | | | Which is why I was careful to write "EU"
The OP wrote "Europe finally needs to get its act together" meaning joint action so in turn implying the EU; there is no other suitable "Europe" group?
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29.04.2016, 17:36
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | The OP wrote "Europe finally needs to get its act together" meaning joint action so in turn implying the EU | | | | | Nope. I wrote "Europe" because I meant Europe as in "all European countries".
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29.04.2016, 22:25
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany
... and even if it were EU (as opposed to all european countries) that would actually be Schengen area which CH is part of.
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | ... and even if it were EU (as opposed to all european countries) that would actually be Schengen area which CH is part of. | | | | | But Schengen area would exclude Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland, Romania and the United Kingdom | 
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | But Schengen area would exclude Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland, Romania and the United Kingdom  | | | | | Yes. Those countries don't have a coordinated approach to immigration control. The Schengen states do, and I'd be happy for Switzerland to be protected to some extent from people deemed undesirable by any of the other Schengen states.
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04.05.2016, 16:35
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany
EU wants to fine countries who don't take migrants --- 250K per migrant http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36202490 | This user would like to thank amogles for this useful post: | | 
04.05.2016, 19:10
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Huh, sounds like the EC doesn't even listen to themselves.... EU should 'interfere' less - Commission boss Juncker | This user would like to thank esto for this useful post: | | 
05.05.2016, 13:47
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | It seems to me that this is also an admission of the true costs of refugees.
Merkel's cronies have been telling us all along that all these highly skilled doctors and engineers are such an opportunity for the economy and that anything we are spending on them will be recovered 50 fold down the line.
If that is btrue, why does Germany even want other countries to take any, and why set the fine so high?
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05.05.2016, 18:19
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That's calculated as estimated 5yr cost of an immigrant.
In Poland a minimum net salary is about EUR 320, and unemployment benefit (6 months) about EUR 200. So one could live on this for 65 years on a minimum salary in Poland.
This proposal has made huge waves in Poland. I'm not sure it will cause the intended effect.
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05.05.2016, 18:26
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | That's calculated as estimated 5yr cost of an immigrant.
In Poland a minimum net salary is about EUR 320, and unemployment benefit (6 months) about EUR 200. So one could live on this for 65 years on a minimum salary in Poland.
This proposal has made huge waves in Poland. I'm not sure it will cause the intended effect. | | | | | As I've said before, if the true intention of Merkel and Junker was to shipwreck the EU, they couldn't have chosen a better strategy,
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany
How about they give countries 250k per migrant to help shoulder the burden of the costs they bear...
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05.05.2016, 20:00
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | How about they give countries 250k per migrant to help shoulder the burden of the costs they bear... | | | | | This would have been the traditional German way.
HelmutKohl's chequebook diplomacy could charm any country, rightly or wrongly, into doing exactly what Germany wanted.
Germany seems to swing from oner extreme to the other.
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| | Re: Arab gang assaults in Germany | Quote: | |  | | | This would have been the traditional German way.
Helmut Kohl's chequebook diplomacy could charm any country, rightly or wrongly, into doing exactly what Germany wanted.
Germany seems to swing from oner extreme to the other. | | | | | It's just amazing how we even allowed this to happen in the first place. The impact of this mass migration is not going to have a positive effect on the host countries, their culture will be changed irrevocably in generations to come, and considering the vast majority of migrant families have much higher average birth rates per family than in Europe I can't see it being for the better. In a relatively short time their populations will potentially multiply many time over and I would bet a lot of money that integration levels will not be high, especially when communities and ghettos form. By the time this mass migration stops we will have the same problems with radicalisation in Europe, except on a much larger scale. The impact of a rapidly growing Islamic community is only going to create increasing unrest.
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