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At the same time, nobody except people from the US would ever say 'I-m American' when asked where they are from ( They'd say Canadian, or Mexican, or Peruvian, etc.)
True that, I've only ever said "I'm Canadian, and Swiss."


OTOH, it's surprising how many Europeans, Brits and Swiss won't hesitate to tell me that I'm an American when we're discussing politics, social or cultural norms.

On a positive note, I find that Brits referring to us as "Colonials" seems to be going out of fashion.
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Re: Facebook are prudes

FYI: The FB-censors are in the Philippines.
They are not really FB-employees but contractors at a 3rd-party company.

Make of that what you want.
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Old 27.05.2018, 15:32
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OTOH, it's surprising how many Europeans, Brits and Swiss won't hesitate to tell me that I'm an American when we're discussing politics, social or cultural norms.

On a positive note, I find that Brits referring to us as "Colonials" seems to be going out of fashion.
Many of us can't tell between a Canadian and a Merkin, so that's probably why

Merkin or septic is more current these days for USians.
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Old 27.05.2018, 15:39
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Americans are people with the nationality of the USA
Americans are also North Americans
Canadians are North Americans
Peruvians are South Americans
There is no continent called America
North-America and South-America are continent names.
Both of them together are the Americas.

I cannot see why somebody would call a Canadian or Peruvian an American, nor have I ever heard it.
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Old 27.05.2018, 15:53
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Many of us can't tell between a Canadian and a Merkin,
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I can. Canadians appreciate it. One "tell" is the way they say about.
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Old 27.05.2018, 16:11
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I can. Canadians appreciate it. One "tell" is the way they say about.
My rule of thumb; if in doubt always go for Canadian. Same for NewZealand and Scotland.
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Old 27.05.2018, 16:15
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This is the problem. We dont have a word for this in English, so we just shorten it to ' I'm American', and everyone knows what that means. In Spanish there is a word for 'unitedstatesian' - , estadounidense.

So when you say 'I-m American' some people get upset because they think you are so ignorant that you don-t recognize others from the New World as also being Americans. Of course, if you say ' Soy Estadounidense', they'll often respond with 'Oh- Americano!'

go figure.

At the same time, nobody except people from the US would ever say 'I-m American' when asked where they are from ( They'd say Canadian, or Mexican, or Peruvian, etc.)

It's just another way for people to try to bash on United Statesians.
When I'm in the USA, or in Argentina, or even in China, and people ask me where I'm, from, I don't say from Europe, I say I'm English but I've lived in Switzerland since 1291, or some shortened version thereof.

Hardly anybody identities themselves by their continent. In some cases, say calling a Chinese an Asian, can be en be considered a racial slur in some quarters.

And seeing the USA is the only country that has the word Anerica in its name, I think it's totally legitimate to equate American with USAian
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Old 27.05.2018, 16:28
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Re: Facebook are prudes

In the same way, the country of India is not the same as the Indian subcontinent. But if somebody claims to be an Indian, you wouldn't question that.
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Old 27.05.2018, 17:18
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In the same way, the country of India is not the same as the Indian subcontinent. But if somebody claims to be an Indian, you wouldn't question that.
Well, I might ask “Feather or dot”? I think they stole ‘Indian’ as well. They are not called Indians in Canada any longer. Either their tribal names such as Algonkin Bellabella Chilliwack Chippewa Cree Dakota Shuswap Songish Tschantoga Tsimshian Tukkuthkutchin etc., or collectively First Nations.

In Canada people from the South Asia sub-continent are known as “East Indians” regardless of the actual country of origin.
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Old 27.05.2018, 17:18
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Many of us can't tell between a Canadian and a Merkin, so that's probably why

Merkin or septic is more current these days for USians.
I used to wear a small gold enamel maple leaf on my lapel when I was out and about (and in a suit). My (now) Ex always referred to it as my "I am not an American" pin.
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Re: Facebook are prudes

Yes amis is much better
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When I'm in the USA, or in Argentina, or even in China, and people ask me where I'm, from, I don't say from Europe, I say I'm English but I've lived in Switzerland since 1291, or some shortened version thereof.

Hardly anybody identities themselves by their continent. In some cases, say calling a Chinese an Asian, can be en be considered a racial slur in some quarters.

And seeing the USA is the only country that has the word Anerica in its name, I think it's totally legitimate to equate American with USAian
Shit . Since 1291?
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Old 27.05.2018, 18:20
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calling a Chinese an Asian, can be en be considered a racial slur in some quarters
And the opostite?

My wife calls all asians, including her ex inlaws, chinese, which may be technically correct as her exMIL is chinese, exFIL vietnamese.

Either that, or viet-cong (when she's pissed off at them).

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Re: Facebook are prudes

Maybe Gringos?
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a gringo is just a north american or anglo-saxon. it is usually a white person but doesnt have to be. it isnt a hateful term but it can be used hatefully. it also represents behaviour and attitudes latinos consider to be "american".


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I would say that Peruvians were SOUTH Americans. So, what do you call people from the USA then? United Stations??
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Old 28.05.2018, 01:38
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Face it!
When was the last time you know of any Canadian or anyone south of the US border calling themselves an American when asked "Where you from?" ?
Yes Americans stole the term, but good luck claiming it back.
A bit like one night when nobody noticed, the Swiss stopped being European

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An US-American.

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True that, I've only ever said "I'm Canadian, and Swiss."


OTOH, it's surprising how many Europeans, Brits and Swiss won't hesitate to tell me that I'm an American when we're discussing politics, social or cultural norms.

On a positive note, I find that Brits referring to us as "Colonials" seems to be going out of fashion.
Actually I heard the term American for a Canadian the first time a few weeks ago and thought it was either weird or a mistake.
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Old 28.05.2018, 11:59
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Shit . Since 1291?
sure, went to school with Wilhelm Tell and that crowd. And I've sworn not to go back to England, at least not as long as that awful King John is still on the throne.
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Old 28.05.2018, 12:13
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And the opostite?

My wife calls all asians, including her ex inlaws, chinese, which may be technically correct as her exMIL is chinese, exFIL vietnamese.

Either that, or viet-cong (when she's pissed off at them).

Tom
My grandma use dto do that too. She lived in Singapore and other Asian countries, both before and after WW2 and she had three words, Japanese, Chinese and Native. The Japanese were Japanese and she was very particular about keeping them in a special category. The word had a tinge of admiration, even if she didn't approve of what they did. A Chinese was anybody who wasn't directly Japanese but was educated, had a profession or was a trader or otherwise worked for a living. Calling somebody a Chinese even if he didn't fit in any of these categories was also sometimes a sign of admiration or approval. The poor people out in the villages were the natives. You wouldn't deal with a native directly but always got a Chinese as go between. If a native worked hard enough he could become a Chinese.

But that was a different time, when sensitivities to what would today be considered racism were different. Well, it was blatantly racist, but at that time people used such words with some naievety.
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My rule of thumb; if in doubt always go for Canadian. Same for NewZealand and Scotland.
I've never even been tempted to call a New Zealander or a Scot American; I find them really easy to distinguish from septics. Why would it occur to you to do so?

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An US-American.
No.

Just no, on many levels.
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Old 28.05.2018, 12:31
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I've never even been tempted to call a New Zealander or a Scot American; I find them really easy to distinguish from septics. Why would it occur to you to do so?
even when they're speaking German?

I tend to find there is an English way of speaking German and then there is a way that isn't English in pronounciation but still shows the person is thinking in an English way.
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Old 28.05.2018, 12:34
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Shit . Since 1291?
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Just no, on many levels.
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