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Old 05.09.2018, 18:57
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Did Hitler pay for the coaches to bring people to the huge Nazi gatherings ??

It's a complete subversion of democracy...
In those days it was horses and carts
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China has a vision, Europe....not anymore.
China has funds, why be philosophical about it. And they earned it. How - is another question and it might not be a role model for people who are busy virtue signalling. They have an advantage. If we are able to copy it or not, is pretty irrelevant. Ego is in the way, life style, our inability to understand ourselves. Our standards that I am thankful for most of the time. But it is completely besides the point because it is that advantage that matters, a combo of forward thinking, sacrifice, timing and resources.

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..and Europe seems to be run by specialists in marketing and political "sciences".
Another point of "a clients wants - clients gets". These specialists would be redundant if customers did not pay for them. Do not blame the specialists. Blame people's spending habits.
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To be fair, this thread is a pretty good barometer of that. The pontificating, utter nonsense and pettiness on here is toe-curling.
I don't think this marton chartacter is completely serious with all his posts to be fair.
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Old 05.09.2018, 19:14
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In Magic Merkelland we don't ask questions like that
Lol @ Merkelland. I spat handcrafted, freshly made hipster yoghurt on my suit, damn! The only thing that excuses me, there are no unwholesome yoghurts around.

There are no free lunches anywhere. But as much as I understand the econo mechanics, I also know people are neurologically wired to be kind (or to think they are).
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Old 05.09.2018, 19:17
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In those days it was horses and carts
Don't you ever get tired of being wrong ?

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Old 05.09.2018, 19:25
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I don't think this marton chartacter is completely serious with all his posts to be fair.
Who really is, here?
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Who really is, here?
On a thread I always (mis)read "Do you believe in God?"....?

Poor Merkel.

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China has funds, why be philosophical about it. And they earned it. How - is another question and it might not be a role model for people who are busy virtue signalling. They have an advantage. If we are able to copy it or not, is pretty irrelevant. Ego is in the way, life style, our inability to understand ourselves. Our standards that I am thankful for most of the time. But it is completely besides the point because it is that advantage that matters, a combo of forward thinking, sacrifice, timing and resources.
We could at least copy the part with forward thinking..:-)
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On a thread I always (mis)read "Do you believe in God?"....?
Are you trying to share some Christian guilt?

These weird and massive philosophical movements and savior complexes seem to me to be about some guilt that people do not process. Whether genuine guilt or imposed one, "borrowed"..it will work for some and not for others. A question of conscience and history, mainly. Pragmatics. Poorer one is, sharper one's pragmatic instinct will be, less guilt. Dunno. I think we can start by allowing others to opt for as much guilt as they need.

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On a thread I always (mis)read "Do you believe in God?"....?

Poor Merkel.



We could at least copy the part with forward thinking..:-)
If we accept that it is, in fact, backwards. Ultra conservative.
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My point was "it is strange".

Were they really randomly selected or was something else happening?
Apparently the attacker felt that Netherlands was insulting towrads Islam so he attacked two Americans.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKCN1LJ1WZ

Par for the course in 2018, I guess.
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Don't you ever get tired of being wrong ?
Good to know we have something in common
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Old 05.09.2018, 21:26
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As per Sweden the labour participation rates of Non EU migrants is far below that of natives as Dr. Tino Sanandaji - as per the Swedish casepoints out here :
That's a really good (and long) read. And the irony of him being an Iranian immigrant in Sweden is also not lost.
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Old 05.09.2018, 22:09
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That's a really good (and long) read. And the irony of him being an Iranian immigrant in Sweden is also not lost.
So one has a job
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So one has a job
They're probably creating a lot of jobs in the security sector too.
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That's a really good (and long) read. And the irony of him being an Iranian immigrant in Sweden is also not lost.
Another one who wants the door closed after him....so what was happening in Iran years ago when he landed in Sweden? Indeed, the irony is not lost. But in all fairness, he admits he's worried about the scale of the phenomenon....otherwise he's a living proof that integration is possible..
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Apparently the concert against criticism of mass immigration was a roaring success.
Yup perfect response, followed the script to the letter:
  1. Migrant commits violent crime
  2. People turn out to protest against the situation
  3. Protesters branded racist
  4. Huge counter protest organised to prove original protest was racist and everything is just fine, no problems at all
  5. Counter protesters pat themselves on the back for a job well done
  6. Nothing changes
  7. A few more people jump to the far-right populist parties and their following continues to rise
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Old 06.09.2018, 10:51
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Yup perfect response, followed the script to the letter:
  1. Migrant commits violent crime
  2. People turn out to protest against the situation
  3. Protesters branded racist
  4. Huge counter protest organised to prove original protest was racist and everything is just fine, no problems at all
  5. Counter protesters pat themselves on the back for a job well done
  6. Nothing changes
  7. A few more people jump to the far-right populist parties and their following continues to rise, Nothing changes
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France, Italy, Germany, Austria, Holland... Sweden at the weekend
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Yup perfect response, followed the script to the letter:
  1. Migrant commits violent crime
  2. People turn out to protest against the situation
  3. Protesters branded racist
  4. Huge counter protest organised to prove original protest was racist and everything is just fine, no problems at all
  5. Counter protesters pat themselves on the back for a job well done
  6. Nothing changes
  7. A few more people jump to the far-right populist parties and their following continues to rise
You know you're losing when you need to throw a free concert and bus in thousands from across the country just to quell the uprising of concerned citizens who are fed up with your incompetence.
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You know you're losing when you need to throw a free concert and bus in thousands from across the country just to quell the uprising of concerned citizens who are fed up with your incompetence.
This, and the whole broader reaction to what happened, will, when we look back in future years, probably be seen as the tipping point, the moment when the government clearly lost it. That Basil Fawlty moment, when rather than admit and aplogize for a small mistake he makes a much larger mistake to cover the smaller mistake and things get out of hand.
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