The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH - Page 1001

#**20001** 18.04.2019, 10:49

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	https://uk.news.yahoo.com/nigel-fara...121305784.html Nigel Farage BREXIT party seems to be quite popular, more so than conservative or labour

Double digit gains in the space of a week. Ignoring the electorate has its consequences.

Nice to see Change UK doing so well

fatmanfilms · #**20002** 18.04.2019, 10:56

	Quote:
	True, but it's a far cry from the pre-referendum bleating that member states were basically powerless within the EU.

Powerless to enact any change, which is the point

marton · #**20003** 18.04.2019, 11:17

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Double digit gains in the space of a week. Ignoring the electorate has its consequences. Nice to see Change UK doing so well

Biggest loser was the UKIP, from largest share of the vote to the smallest; how/when did they ignore the electorate?

#**20004** 18.04.2019, 11:20

	Quote:	marton
	Biggest loser was the UKIP, from largest share of the vote to the smallest; how/when did they ignore the electorate?

Since the party got infiltrated and taken over by right wing thugs.

Fish Paste · #**20005** 18.04.2019, 11:28

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Ignoring the electorate has its consequences.

Well it will be interesting.

All things being equal, you would expect a massive win for Remain, however it's only BREXIT and the LibDems that have a clear message.
Lab/Con etc are more on the fence. Why vote Ukip when you can vote BREXIT?

Let's see if Remain voters are going to get behind the LibDems, or stay divided.

SponPlague · #**20006** 18.04.2019, 11:41

	Quote:	curley
	It does, I'm only on page 667.

Better than Brexit on page 666 🤣

greenmount · #**20007** 18.04.2019, 12:06

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Since the party got infiltrated and taken over by right wing thugs.

They already had the biggest right wing thug of the decade, how's that even possible?

Seriously, I am not totally against UK getting out of EU as long as this is what most people want. However, the fascist style campaigning which has preceded (and lead to) Brexit, which is prevalent as an anti-foreigner, anti-EU discourse even among a highly educated, highly payed group of British expats like this one (mostly) is unacceptable. The history will no be kind with you. I know people who already study Brexit in sociology and marketing courses.

Urs Max · #**20008** 18.04.2019, 12:07

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	https://uk.news.yahoo.com/nigel-fara...121305784.html Nigel Farage BREXIT party seems to be quite popular, more so than conservative or labour

It would be interesting to see what would happen if they came out of a GE with the most votes and MPs (I'm postulating they will run). Or if they even got the majority.

Can anybody see HRM task Farage with forming the government? Farage for PM?

As for the "constitutional" aspect, doesn't tasking Farage require the recommendation by the MP, presumably the leaving MP? Could May decide to recommend someone else? How does that work?

#**20009** 18.04.2019, 12:08

	Quote:	greenmount
	They already had the biggest right wing thug of the decade, how's that even possible?

They didn't have the delightful Tommy Robinson in those days. He makes Farage appear to be a tree-hugging, sandal-wearing socialist hippy.

fatmanfilms · #**20010** 18.04.2019, 12:43

	Quote:	Urs Max
	It would be interesting to see what would happen if they came out of a GE with the most votes and MPs (I'm postulating they will run). Or if they even got the majority. Can anybody see HRM task Farage with forming the government? Farage for PM?

Yes it's very possible, I said so earlier in the thread.

#**20011** 18.04.2019, 12:59

Good to see the batteries are recharged after our brief hiatus and that we've got back to peak levels of mental.

fatmanfilms · #**20012** 18.04.2019, 13:28

	Quote:
	Good to see the batteries are recharged after our brief hiatus and that we've got back to peak levels of mental.

Personally I am more interested in the election results, actually I need a holiday after 3 months skiing.

#**20013** 18.04.2019, 13:50

	Quote:
	Good to see the batteries are recharged after our brief hiatus and that we've got back to peak levels of mental.

I love that sentence so much..

Might rob it and use as my signature.

SponPlague · #**20014** 18.04.2019, 14:57

	Quote:	Urs Max
	It would be interesting to see what would happen if they came out of a GE with the most votes and MPs (I'm postulating they will run). Or if they even got the majority. Can anybody see HRM task Farage with forming the government? Farage for PM? As for the "constitutional" aspect, doesn't tasking Farage require the recommendation by the MP, presumably the leaving MP? Could May decide to recommend someone else? How does that work?

It probably won’t happen due to “first-past-the-post” - when even Nick Clegg concedes UKIP voters got a raw deal in 2015, you know something’s wrong with the system...

Urs Max · #**20015** 18.04.2019, 18:16

	Quote:
	It probably won’t happen due to “first-past-the-post” - when even Nick Clegg concedes UKIP voters got a raw deal in 2015, you know something’s wrong with the system...

What happened back then? No idea what to search for.

lewton · #**20016** 18.04.2019, 18:35

Whatever percentage of the vote Farage ends up receiving, that is the percentage of British people that want to see Hard Brexit.
I don't understand why hard-core Brexiteers like Loz would be happy with a projected 30-35%, that clearly means that the majority do not want Hard Brexit.

SponPlague · #**20017** 18.04.2019, 20:27

	Quote:	Urs Max
	What happened back then? No idea what to search for.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/76...eral-Democrats

	Quote:
	and I think it is an absolute travesty that four million people voted for Ukip at the last election and all they got was Douglas Carswell.

John William · #**20018** 19.04.2019, 11:26

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Personally I am more interested in the election results, actually I need a holiday after 3 months skiing.

Personally I'm more interested in the level of protests in the UK against Britain not leaving the EU
as planned versus those that are out on the streets protesting against climate change in the
Extinction Rebellion which so far is 'no contest' with the Extinction Rebellion streets ahead of
anything the Brexiteers can muster in the form of protests in the UK.

Maybe most Brits in the UK don't care whether they remain in the EU now and the will of the
people has shifted to concerns on climate change ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47974244

#**20019** 19.04.2019, 11:50

	Quote:	John William
	Personally I'm more interested in the level of protests in the UK against Britain not leaving the EU as planned versus those that are out on the streets protesting against climate change in the Extinction Rebellion which so far is 'no contest' with the Extinction Rebellion streets ahead of anything the Brexiteers can muster in the form of protests in the UK. Maybe most Brits in the UK don't care whether they remain in the EU now and the will of the people has shifted to concerns on climate change ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47974244

Protesting in the streets is a middle class pastime, hence the large numbers of protesters involved in middle class pet topics.

Normal people are too busy working, looking after their kids, enjoying the company of their friends to bother with such futile endeavours.

Jim2007 · #**20020** 19.04.2019, 12:00

	Quote:
	Normal people are too busy working, looking after their kids, enjoying the company of their friends to bother with such futile endeavours.

Right so you don't think the average person is not concerned about climate change, human rights etc..... pretty poor view of your fellow citizens, don't you think?