The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

Today's spin, I guess: people just want to get on with Brexit.

I voted Libdems and we have unseated Cons here. Why? We want a second vote.

This.

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Today's spin, I guess: people just want to get on with Brexit. I voted Libdems and we have unseated Cons here. Why? We want a second vote. This.

What on earth is the "Ultra Brexit" for UKIP?? The mind boggles.

[k_and_e]

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	What on earth is the "Ultra Brexit" for UKIP?? The mind boggles.

Something like an awesome Brexit.

	Quote:	k_and_e
	Something like an awesome Brexit.

With sugar on top..

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	With sugar on top..

All EU citizens crying and begging "please stay with us". UK still leaves and breaks many hearts. The EU promising that the UK is always welcome again and offers a deal that is much better than the current EU deal.


And they all live happily lived happily ever after.


To honor them all, there would also be a Brexit movie with Charlize Theron playing Theresa May.

	Quote:	k_and_e
	Something like an awesome Brexit.

	Quote:	Swisstree
	With sugar on top..

I thought it sounded more like something that comes in a tube and stops your false teeth slipping.

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	I thought it sounded more like something that comes in a tube and stops your false teeth slipping.

Ah yes, maybe to help Ann Widdecombe and John Rhys-Davies to get through their spiel without any accidents.

https://twitter.com/tony_robinson/st...97214472400898

[Blueangel]

On Peston last night, three sets of predictions for the local council elections were shown. The one considered to be the most "extreme" was Conservatives - 800 Labour + 300 Lib Dem +500.

The final results, with all 248 council results in, is...

Conservatives -1,335 Labour - 86 Lib Dem + 704 Other + 862

Even now, the Tories are trying to spin these results as the public urging them to get on with Brexit. You'd have to be a swivel-eyed barn pot to come up with that conclusion.

One interesting result is for Bath & North East Somerset council, which was gained by the Lib Dems last night. This council is served by two MPs, one being the Lib Dem MP for Bath, and the other being Jacob Rees-Mogg, MP for North East Somerset

But the result that I find a huge amount of sheer joy in is UKIP - 145 meaning that they have retained just 31 seats over 248 councils. Oh happy day!

Council elections are meaningless, other than the turnout and the number of spoilt ballot papers. The real fun begins in 3 weeks with the EU Parliament elections when the Brexit Party and Change UK take part. Can’t wait.

[Blueangel]

How are they meaningless?

[marton]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	On Peston last night, three sets of predictions for the local council elections were shown. The one considered to be the most "extreme" was Conservatives - 800 Labour + 300 Lib Dem +500. The final results, with all 248 council results in, is... Conservatives -1,335 Labour - 86 Lib Dem + 704 Other + 862 Even now, the Tories are trying to spin these results as the public urging them to get on with Brexit. You'd have to be a swivel-eyed barn pot to come up with that conclusion. One interesting result is for Bath & North East Somerset council, which was gained by the Lib Dems last night. This council is served by two MPs, one being the Lib Dem MP for Bath, and the other being Jacob Rees-Mogg, MP for North East Somerset But the result that I find a huge amount of sheer joy in is UKIP - 145 meaning that they have retained just 31 seats over 248 councils. Oh happy day!

I agree about UKIP.

Needs a proper analysis but a quick check I made seems to show Tories mostly retained their seats (or even increased) in the areas who had high votes for Leave and they lost most seats in Remain areas!

	Quote:	Blueangel
	How are they meaningless?

In that they don't match Loz's view of the world I suppose.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	How are they meaningless?

I meant to say these council elections are meaningless in relation to the nation’s barometer on Brexit.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	I meant to say these council elections are meaningless in relation to the nation’s barometer on Brexit.

I guess that’s what Theresa May is chanting to herself as she rocks herself back and forth on her bathroom floor.

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	I guess that’s what Theresa May is chanting to herself as she rocks herself back and forth on her bathroom floor.

And to protect the back of her head as she rocks, she wears those chunky big buffer beads made out of shiny rubber.

Rumour has it, Corbyn's got some too.

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	I meant to say these council elections are meaningless in relation to the nation’s barometer on Brexit.

I chopped up a couple of BBC charts to compare Brexit versus local election results by region!

	Quote:	marton
	I chopped up a couple of BBC charts to compare Brexit versus local election results by region! Attachment 136675

But where is the choice for Brexiteers?

There was the option of the party that has failed to deliver Brexit, against the party who had to reprint their campaign leaflets because their position is so ambiguous on Brexit, against the party infiltrated by far right thugs. No real choice for your bog standard moderate Brexiteer. This is why the turnout and number of spoilt ballot papers are important in telling the whole story. The real fun begins in three weeks time.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	This is why the turnout and number of spoilt ballot papers are important in telling the whole story. The real fun begins in three weeks time.

The turnout was standard for this type of ballot, which surprised many commentators who believed there would be a marked drop in turnout. You also need to figure in that there were no ballots in London, which could have seen huge losses by Labour.

In my hometown constituency of Wigan, which was targeted by a considerable UKIP campaign over recent months, and voted by 63.9% Leave the EU, the results were:

Conservatives 8 +1, Labour 57 -3, Independent 10 +2

In the constituency where my vote is registered, Windsor & Maidenhead Royal, whch voted by 53.9% to Remain in the EU, and where the PM is one of the two MPs that represent the area, the results were:

Conservative 23 -15, Lib Dem 9 +8, Independent 9 +7.

Over those 41 seats, UKIP only fielded one candidate who got 152 votes, and the only candidates who polled lower than him across all 41 seats, were all Labour.

In Wigan, UKIP fielded candidates in 70 of the 75 seats. They came second in 8 of those seats, all of which would be considered by your average local to be 'socially deprived areas'. I hate that turn of phrase, so to better define it, I'm talking about families who are into their 3rd generation of long term unemployed and poverty. In lived in one of those areas for 6mths and our house was broken into 3 times. On the second occasion, the thieves stole food from the fridge and the leftovers from a Chinese takeaway. They literally scraped the leftovers from our discarded plates back into the foil tubs and took them.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	No real choice for your bog standard moderate Brexiteer.

Where would you have put your cross with the candidates inn the area that your last UK vote is, or was registered in?