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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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The scary thing is that there doesn't seem to be a sniff of anyone competent to take over or step in.

Given the chaos and fractured state of it all, it's not too much of a stretch to think that anyone with such a mind to capitalise on the mess would be tempted to help tip it over with the help of bots, etc.

It's just awful to watch.
Maybe Judi Dench is available to play the PM as the time approaches for Theresa May to step down ?
She will no doubt do a better job than Boris.

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Old 22.05.2019, 20:50
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Maybe Judi Dench is available to play the PM if and when Theresa May steps down ?
She will no doubt do a better job than Boris.

I don't think Boris even understands it's supposed to be a job.
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Old 22.05.2019, 21:38
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A top European official said President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin are trying to weaken the European Union (EU).

"Countries like Russia, China but also the United States have challenged us harder than before,” Jyrki Katainen, vice president of the European Commission, told CNBC on Tuesday.
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I believe I already posted such an opinion
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Old 22.05.2019, 21:44
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Andrea Leadsom has just resigned. Stalking Horse.
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Old 22.05.2019, 21:46
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British far-right politician Nigel Farage was briefly stuck aboard his touring Brexit bus on Wednesday after several protesters carrying milkshakes appeared nearby, apparently planning to toss the drinks on Farage.
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Every time I believe that the Brexit story could not become more ridiculous then I am proven wrong!
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Old 22.05.2019, 22:19
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Every time I believe that the Brexit story could not become more ridiculous then I am proven wrong!
It's because we're all, and I mean all...Leave and Remain voters...up against morons like this woman.

https://twitter.com/BBCWalesNews/sta...40872445579264
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Old 23.05.2019, 00:42
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Some moron tweeted it should have been acid! https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-48363703
Daft thing to say, but they shouldn’t have lost their job for it. That’s normally the tactics of the Left.
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Old 23.05.2019, 08:33
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Daft thing to say, but they shouldn’t have lost their job for it. That’s normally the tactics of the Left.
It's completely fair she lost her job. She works for a company that promotes happiness and wellbeing and she'd have been a huge liability to the company, so they were entirely justified in sacking her.
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Old 23.05.2019, 11:33
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Since then Germany has agreed to increase its military spending. And I don't think they would have got there without being pushed.

Obama, for example, would never have been able to do that because nobody would have believed he would have been capable of following up on such a threat.

In the longer term, as people begin to spot the pattern, he won't be able to pull it off indefinitely. But yeah. It worked for now.

So I would say, from Trump's perspective, mission accomplished.
The increase has nothing to do with Trump. In fact it's based on an agreement from 2014 where Germany agreed to increase spending towards 2% of GDP. By 2024 military spending will be some 1.5%, as announced and planned for long before Trump.

Even now that Merkel is known to step down soon she just keeps winning.
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Old 23.05.2019, 11:54
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Daft thing to say, but they shouldn’t have lost their job for it. That’s normally the tactics of the Left.
Farage says he had the bolts on his car loosened a couple years ago. Especially with such precedent I don't see how the acid tweet, or any other incitement to (serious) violence, could go unpunished.
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Old 23.05.2019, 11:59
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Farage says he had the bolts on his car loosened a couple years ago. Especially with such precedent I don't see how the acid tweet, or any other incitement to (serious) violence, could go unpunished.
I thought he only had a screw or two loose?
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Old 23.05.2019, 12:31
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Farage says he had the bolts on his car loosened a couple years ago. Especially with such precedent I don't see how the acid tweet, or any other incitement to (serious) violence, could go unpunished.
This was no incitement to violence, it was a dumb tweet. If it was then the police should be called to investigate. Taking away people’s jobs who had the “wrong opinions” was what they did in the former DDR, hence the Left are so fond of this tactic today. We’re better than that though.
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This was no incitement to violence, it was a dumb tweet. If it was then the police should be called to investigate. Taking away people’s jobs who had the “wrong opinions” was what they did in the former DDR, hence the Left are so fond of this tactic today. We’re better than that though.
Maybe it was just due to the "acid" bit. Acid attacks have been a thing recently so perhaps they have to be seen to stamp out any sniff of a threat, regardless of whether it's serious or not. There are enough mouth breathers out there that would see it as a good idea.

Had they said "a bucket of steaming piss" instead, it may possibly have avoided a sacking.

I don't think, in the case of the acid reference, it's a left or right issue.
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Old 23.05.2019, 12:48
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This was no incitement to violence, it was a dumb tweet. If it was then the police should be called to investigate. Taking away people’s jobs who had the “wrong opinions” was what they did in the former DDR, hence the Left are so fond of this tactic today. We’re better than that though.
I couldn't agree more. McCarthy and the people behind the Fichenaffäre, to give just two additional examples, were socialist communist punks as well.
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This was no incitement to violence, it was a dumb tweet. If it was then the police should be called to investigate. Taking away people’s jobs who had the “wrong opinions” was what they did in the former DDR, hence the Left are so fond of this tactic today. We’re better than that though.
It's nothing to do with wrong opinions - if the employer believes that keeping this liability on the books will cost them business, then I'm sure you'll agree, that the employer is entitled to get rid of her.
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Maybe it was just due to the "acid" bit. Acid attacks have been a thing recently so perhaps they have to be seen to stamp out any sniff of a threat, regardless of whether it's serious or not. There are enough mouth breathers out there that would see it as a good idea.

Had they said "a bucket of steaming piss" instead, it may possibly have avoided a sacking.

I don't think, in the case of the acid reference, it's a left or right issue.
Absolutely not, the law is very clear where incitement to violence is concerned. The funny thing is that this outcome was abundantly obvious when these tactics were started not so long ago. In the last week we’ve had this women being fired as well as left leaning DJ Danny Baker. That’s what people forget, when you change the rules of the game, don’t be surprised when the same happens to you. How long will it be before we see Nicola Sturgeon or Dianne Abbot covered in milkshake or worse?
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It's nothing to do with wrong opinions - if the employer believes that keeping this liability on the books will cost them business, then I'm sure you'll agree, that the employer is entitled to get rid of her.
Depends on what’s in the employment contract, but generally I agree the employer is well within their right, what I don’t agree with is people taking it upon themselves to inform employers.
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Absolutely not, the law is very clear where incitement to violence is concerned. The funny thing is that this outcome was abundantly obvious when these tactics were started not so long ago. In the last week we’ve had this women being fired as well as left leaning DJ Danny Baker. That’s what people forget, when you change the rules of the game, don’t be surprised when the same happens to you. How long will it be before we see Nicola Sturgeon or Dianne Abbot covered in milkshake or worse?
I think you are just looking at it with your right-wing goggles on, though. Politics on both sides of the trough has descended into playground-style fluff and distraction.

To credit it with either left or right politics is a bit generous, if not a bit naive but, hey, whatever helps tidy it up into a neatly labelled box...

Agree with StirB, though. No employer wants a gobby loose cannon making moronic public tweets and messing up his profits. Welcome to 2019.
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It's nothing to do with wrong opinions - if the employer believes that keeping this liability on the books will cost them business, then I'm sure you'll agree, that the employer is entitled to get rid of her.
Legally and technically you are right.

But you don't need to look far on social media to find lots of people saying this and worse. And most get away with it. That doesn't make it right of course. But it does create the impresion this lady was singled out.
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Legally and technically you are right.

But you don't need to look far on social media to find lots of people saying this and worse. And most get away with it. That doesn't make it right of course. But it does create the impresion this lady was singled out.
She was probably (or clearly) daft enough to use her real name in her Twitter profile. Probably made finding her place of employment pretty easy (assuming it wasn't already listed in her Twitter Bio).

Her employer has now been in the national news in a rather unfortunate light, and presumably doesn't want to be seen to be supporting someone advocating violence. She signed her own P45 with that tweet, to be honest.
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