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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 23.05.2019, 12:23
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How long will it be before we see Nicola Sturgeon or Dianne Abbot covered in milkshake or worse?

The only person who's already seen Diane Abbot covered in something worse than milk shake, is Jeremy Corbyn.
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Old 23.05.2019, 12:23
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The only person who's already seen Diane Abbot covered in something worse than milk shake, is Jeremy Corbyn.
Well, that didn't take long.
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Old 23.05.2019, 13:33
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Old 23.05.2019, 14:35
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The only person who's already seen Diane Abbot covered in something worse than milk shake, is Jeremy Corbyn.
I was just a little bit sick in my mouth

Back on topic, has Theresa May fooked off yet?
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Old 23.05.2019, 14:59
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Old 23.05.2019, 15:02
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https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/cb...101048623.html

Ireland may be toast in a no deal scenario, but as Jim has repeated endlessly the loss to the EU is irrelevant so won't give a shit.
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Old 23.05.2019, 15:30
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https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/cb...101048623.html

Ireland may be toast in a no deal scenario, but as Jim has repeated endlessly the loss to the EU is irrelevant so won't give a shit.
This is what has put me back in the fence as to whether the UK will ever leave the EU without a deal or if the UK will ever leave at all. I was pretty sure that the EU would simply let the UK leave without a deal. With the extensions the EU keep granting however it’s clear that they don’t have the stomach for no deal. And as the current parliament also won’t let the UK leave without a deal the can will keep on being kicked down the road until there’s a general election.
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This is what has put me back in the fence as to whether the UK will ever leave the EU without a deal or if the UK will ever leave at all. I was pretty sure that the EU would simply let the UK leave without a deal. With the extensions the EU keep granting however it’s clear that they don’t have the stomach for no deal. And as the current parliament also won’t let the UK leave without a deal the can will keep on being kicked down the road until there’s a general election.
Which might actually happen sooner rather than later.

But before that we've probably got a leadership struggle in the Tory party. And those things have a habit of turning ugly.

So things are going to get worse before they get better.
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This is what has put me back in the fence as to whether the UK will ever leave the EU without a deal or if the UK will ever leave at all. I was pretty sure that the EU would simply let the UK leave without a deal. With the extensions the EU keep granting however it’s clear that they don’t have the stomach for no deal. And as the current parliament also won’t let the UK leave without a deal the can will keep on being kicked down the road until there’s a general election.
When it comes to May though, never has a prime minister left under such a cloud and therefore with nothing to lose. If I were her, whenever she goes, I'd try and bring down as much of the ship as possible with me. Whether its leaks, public statements, calling a general election, revoking article 50 I wouldnt care. After getting this much of a kicking for basically a year and a half, I would put the boot in mercilessly on the way out.
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Old 23.05.2019, 16:27
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I was just a little bit sick in my mouth
Wrong thread?
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I was pretty sure that the EU would simply let the UK leave without a deal.
The EC has made it clear time and time again that the EU wants the UK to stay. They'll probably keep granting extensions until Judgement Day, if that's how long it takes.

It's the UK that wants to leave (mabye), therefor it's up to the UK to decide.
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When it comes to May though, never has a prime minister left under such a cloud and therefore with nothing to lose. If I were her, whenever she goes, I'd try and bring down as much of the ship as possible with me. Whether its leaks, public statements, calling a general election, revoking article 50 I wouldnt care. After getting this much of a kicking for basically a year and a half, I would put the boot in mercilessly on the way out.
That would merely turn her from being a hopeless Prime Minister to being a c**t.

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The EC has made it clear time and time again that the EU wants the UK to stay. They'll probably keep granting extensions until Judgement Day, if that's how long it takes.

It's the UK that wants to leave (mabye), therefor it's up to the UK to decide.
The EU had ramped up the no deal rhetoric at the beginning of the year until Ireland wet themselves (Germany too) and it became abundantly clear that neither side will pull the trigger on a no deal Brexit leaving everyone in limbo.

The problem is, that even if another General Election was held it wouldn’t solve the issue of the number of MPs that want to block Brexit. Thanks to the totally undemocratic FPTP system, the Brexit party would win on current polling 20%+ of the vote but gain a single MP. This being the case I’m struggling to see at the moment how the UK can ever leave.
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Exit polls in the Netherlands show disappointing results for the nexit parties, Wilder will be lucky to keep one seat
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and that will be the one in his pants, if he's very lucky. I have a problem with wild haired megalomaniacs.
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The EU had ramped up the no deal rhetoric at the beginning of the year until Ireland wet themselves (Germany too) and it became abundantly clear that neither side will pull the trigger on a no deal Brexit leaving everyone in limbo.
Got some hard facts to back up that claim?
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I heard discussion on the radio that if the Brexit Party win big it will pretty much nix any plans for a second referendum. The Brexit Party is the one trick pony with "no deal" as its entire manifesto so if it makes big gains the assumption is that people voted for it because it's pushing for no deal.
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I heard discussion on the radio that if the Brexit Party win big it will pretty much nix any plans for a second referendum. The Brexit Party is the one trick pony with "no deal" as its entire manifesto so if it makes big gains the assumption is that people voted for it because it's pushing for no deal.
This makes sense if by "win big" they mean at least 45% of the votes.
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I heard discussion on the radio that if the Brexit Party win big it will pretty much nix any plans for a second referendum. The Brexit Party is the one trick pony with "no deal" as its entire manifesto so if it makes big gains the assumption is that people voted for it because it's pushing for no deal.
Why?


They had 51.9% at the referendum and looks like they get 25% in the Euro elections which are meaningless elections anyway. If it was a GE they wouldn't get these numbers. If anything that looks like they are losing ground to me, not gaining.


Even if you add the Tories 9% on it they're nowhere near the referendum result. But yeah, anyone interprets number in the way it suits them so newspapers can shape it to whatever sells on the day.
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Ministers expect Theresa May to reveal No 10 departure date on Friday
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Why?


They had 51.9% at the referendum and looks like they get 25% in the Euro elections which are meaningless elections anyway. If it was a GE they wouldn't get these numbers. If anything that looks like they are losing ground to me, not gaining.


Even if you add the Tories 9% on it they're nowhere near the referendum result. But yeah, anyone interprets number in the way it suits them so newspapers can shape it to whatever sells on the day.
I think it's a crap situation as well - I was just relating what I heard (it was on the BBC).

Alternatively, a vote for the Brexit Party might be also be borne out of frustration for the useless farts currently fighting it out in parliament.

One thing's for sure, I don't think I can stomach one more snap of Farage's gurning face. The state of it.
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