View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen? |
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union
|    | 49 | 23.11% |
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU
|    | 68 | 32.08% |
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK
|    | 22 | 10.38% |
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing
|    | 23 | 10.85% |
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us
|    | 17 | 8.02% |
I don't really care
|    | 33 | 15.57% |  | | | 
27.05.2019, 08:36
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Pathetic 32% for the Brexit party. +5 points on the 2014 result.
Farage has reason to celebrate as it is clear that people will vote against Brexit in a potential second vote, thus his EU salary will keep coming into his bank account for years to come.
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27.05.2019, 08:37
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Allow me: *clears throat* “but the combined total of Lib Dem’s, Change UK, Green, flying unicorn party beat the Brexit party! This is clearly and mandate to revoke art 50! And the turnout, don’t forget turnout!!”  | | | | | If you believe that people still want Brexit (and a Hard Brexit of all possibilities) then why are you so scared of a people's vote?
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27.05.2019, 08:46
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Pathetic 32% for the Brexit party. +5 points on the 2014 result.
Farage has reason to celebrate as it is clear that people will vote against Brexit in a potential second vote, thus his EU salary will keep coming into his bank account for years to come. | | | | | A Party that is 6 weeks old now has more seats in the EU Parliament than any other party in the whole of the EU. Pathetic  | Quote: | |  | | | If you believe that people still want Brexit (and a Hard Brexit of all possibilities) then why are you so scared of a people's vote? | | | | | The only reason I don’t want a “people’s vote” is because I’m aware of the damage it’ll do to what passes as a democracy in the UK. Were one to be held I’m confident that Leave would win again, only this time by a greater margin.
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27.05.2019, 08:53
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | A Party that is 6 weeks old now has more seats in the EU Parliament than any other party in the whole of the EU. Pathetic  
The only reason I don’t want a “people’s vote” is because I’m aware of the damage it’ll do to what passes as a democracy in the UK. Were one to be held I’m confident that Leave would win again, only this time by a greater margin. | | | | | Well, if we face the democratic truth here: there has never been a vote. There has been a legally non-binding referendum. Speaking about democracy in the UK is like speaking of freedom of press in Hungary.
The result of the EU elections has, on many levels, been more indicative of the people’s will than the referendum. It’s clear that the people want out and as fast as possible. The same goes for the EU as a whole, btw: people want the UK to pack up and leave. So please UK: go and get this over with.
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27.05.2019, 08:57
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | A Party that is 6 weeks old now has more seats in the EU Parliament than any other party in the whole of the EU. Pathetic   | | | | | Not pathetic result for the party. For the party it is an awesome result.
But it is pathetic for the "cause" of Brexit as it shows that only 32% of the British public want Hard Brexit.
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27.05.2019, 08:59
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UK Results.
Turnout 37% - 18.5M
Brexit Party 32% - 5.9M
Lib Dem 19% - 3.5M
Labour - 14% - 2.6M
Green - 11% - 2.0M
Conservative - 9% - 1.7M
SNP - 3% - 0.6M
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27.05.2019, 09:03
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Not pathetic result for the party. For the party it is an awesome result.
But it is pathetic for the "cause" of Brexit as it shows that only 32% of the British public want Hard Brexit. | | | | | Uh no. 32% percent want to leave immediately, the rest voted for a variety of Hail Mary parties, each with different plans on Brexit. The vote was extremely clear actually.
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27.05.2019, 09:09
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The EU is doomed to collapse anyhow. A centralized government for Europe failed in the past and will fail again.
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27.05.2019, 09:32
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | The EU is doomed to collapse anyhow. A centralized government for Europe failed in the past and will fail again. | | | | | You’re the perfect SVP voter!
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27.05.2019, 09:52
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Uh no. 32% percent want to leave immediately, the rest voted for a variety of Hail Mary parties, each with different plans on Brexit. The vote was extremely clear actually. | | | | | LD, Green SNP and CHUK are absolutely clear. Only labour are unclear.
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27.05.2019, 11:15
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27.05.2019, 11:19
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | The only reason I don’t want a “people’s vote” is because I’m aware of the damage it’ll do to what passes as a democracy in the UK. Were one to be held I’m confident that Leave would win again, only this time by a greater margin. | | | | | Why would a confirmed Brexit vote do damage? I'd think quite the contrary as it would legitimize the tiny overweight for Brexit.
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27.05.2019, 11:28
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | A Party that is 6 weeks old now has more seats in the EU Parliament than any other party in the whole of the EU. Pathetic  
The only reason I don’t want a “people’s vote” is because I’m aware of the damage it’ll do to what passes as a democracy in the UK. Were one to be held I’m confident that Leave would win again, only this time by a greater margin. | | | | | Interesting chart from the BBC here, not what I expected to see? | 
27.05.2019, 11:29
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Why would a confirmed Brexit vote do damage? I'd think quite the contrary as it would legitimize the tiny overweight for Brexit. | | | | | A re-vote has too much risk. Good results:
If leave win by a bigger margin - good, lets leave. its unlikely though. Good in terms of democracy, not in terms of UK btw.
But:
Leave win by same margin: Same arguments as before.
Leave win by lower margin (51-49) - even worse arguments than before.
Remain win by lower margin (51-49) - not taken as democratic by leavers using argument its smaller than before.
Remain win by higher margin on higher turnout - Remain say "right its now settled", leave want another vote.
Remain win by higher margin on lower turnout - Leave will say its undemocratic because remain complained about turnout first time round.
You could go on and on. The first vote has to be implemented, for democracy to continue, only then can you have another referendum in a few years which may result in us rejoining.
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27.05.2019, 12:11
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Oh, human nature. If something will hit Terra in the next 20 years, I'd say it's no loss.
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27.05.2019, 12:28
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | If leave win by a bigger margin - good, lets leave. its unlikely though. Good in terms of democracy, not in terms of UK btw. | | | | | Loz disagrees, I'd like to hear his reasoning. He says a re-poll would do damage even though he believes the outcome is clear and would be a clearer win for Leave.
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27.05.2019, 12:42
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Remarkable, these elections have completely redefined what it takes to win an election. From this day forth let it be known that you may add your votes to as many other parties as you wish in order to claim a comprehensive victory.
Bravo Change UK!
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27.05.2019, 12:44
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Loz disagrees, I'd like to hear his reasoning. He says a re-poll would do damage even though he believes the outcome is clear and would be a clearer win for Leave. | | | | | Below is basically why I believe having a second vote would do damage to democracy. Have a second vote and I’ll demand a third if I don’t like the result. | Quote: | |  | | | You could go on and on. The first vote has to be implemented, for democracy to continue, only then can you have another referendum in a few years which may result in us rejoining. | | | | | | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
27.05.2019, 14:34
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27.05.2019, 14:38
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