The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[amogles]

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Why? Not being outspoken isnt' the same as being buy-able (though I'd agree that everybody can be "bought" if the incentive can include extreme and in many cases illegal measures).

I was responding to the (probably innaccurate) suggestion that many people in the creative arts business are pro remain, not because of a deep felt conviction but because they believe their continued funding is more secure in a remain scenario.

Hence my tongue in cheek response that if that is the case, then that could be twisted into a way to buy their vote.

	Quote:	amogles
	I was responding to the (probably innaccurate) suggestion that many people in the creative arts business are pro remain, not because of a deep felt conviction but because they believe their continued funding is more secure in a remain scenario. Hence my tongue in cheek response that if that is the case, then that could be twisted into a way to buy their vote.

Surely everyone is voting Brexit or not due to their belief that it will benefit them...whether that be through continued funding, or less forrins on the street.

[Mikers]

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	Surely everyone is voting Brexit or not due to their belief that it will benefit them...whether that be through continued funding, or less forrins on the street.

I think people voted for a range of reasons. You could equally say people voted remain because it would benefit them through not having an immediate recession as was predicted at the time or because they wanted a single european superstate with no borders.

	Quote:	Mikers
	I think people voted for a range of reasons. You could equally say people voted remain because it would benefit them through not having an immediate recession as was predicted at the time or because they wanted a single european superstate with no borders.

Sure, the reasons are manifold.

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	amogles
	Hence my tongue in cheek response that if that is the case, then that could be twisted into a way to buy their vote.

No need for a tongue in cheek if you ask me. Such deals happen all the time, it's called Realpolitik - not outright vote buying but one hand washes the other, scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. Applies to Brexit as well in a similar fashion, it's a binary decision/vote even though many may see it much more as a "on the one hand, on the other hand" decision (nowadays).

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	If you look at the top selling albums since 2000, only Adele gets anywhere near the top worldwide, the others, not so much. I'm sure overall Sir Elton is one of the top selling artists of all time, but in the last 20 years, barely a ripple.

Coldplay. George Michael. Jessie J is apparently huge in China.

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	Coldplay. George Michael. Jessie J is apparently huge in China.

Again, not making worldwide top-selling album lists.

Also, George Michael?

Funny how Adele, Amy Winehouse, Jessie J all came out of the Brit School in Croydon. The early days saw the Brit School thrive and churn them out.. it is one of three colleges in the UK that is free for kids to attend being government funded, yet all three are struggling with austerity cutbacks of recent years.

And they are not the only ones trying different ways to raise money to meet kids' needs..

Tell us something we don't know..

https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/statu...52005311279110

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Tell us something we don't know.. https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/statu...52005311279110

Good. We now find ourselves in a win-win situation: either we leave the EU or we say goodbye to the Tories.

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Tell us something we don't know.. https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/statu...52005311279110

It’s kind of sweet that he’s so buoyed up by a politician ‘looking him in the eye’ and telling him straight. Is he the new boy? Bless...

[Blueangel]

As if we didn't know it before, more confirmation that an absolute halfwit is running for PM with the backing of the other halfwits I despair. This is the future of a country, not a jolly jape.


https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/statu...48377259593728

	Quote:	Blueangel
	As if we didn't know it before, more confirmation that an absolute halfwit is running for PM with the backing of the other halfwits I despair. This is the future of a country, not a jolly jape. Attachment 137027 https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/statu...48377259593728

The total reckless disrespect that they have for the electorate by spouting utter bollocks and assuming people will indisputably swallow every word is mind-boggling.

I guess it worked for the Leave vote so why change a winning formula? Astonishing.

[amogles]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Attachment 137022

Drug cartels selling mooses and maple leaves?

Colombia =/= Columbia

	Quote:	Blueangel
	As if we didn't know it before, more confirmation that an absolute halfwit is running for PM with the backing of the other halfwits I despair. This is the future of a country, not a jolly jape. Attachment 137027 https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/statu...48377259593728

Haha! I read that yesterday.. if this wasn't so serious, it'd be hilarious.

Many moons ago, Theresa May said:

“The question of GATT 24 is perhaps not quite as simple as some may have understood it to be. […] expectation that it is simply possible to leave with no deal and immediately go into that situation does not actually reflect accurately the situation that the United Kingdom would find ourselves in”.

Not one tory brexiteer has paid attention.. but Boris is away, rinse and repeat, he's on a roll.

Has Boris spoken yet about what he's going to do with Arlene once he's PM?

[amogles]

Boris now says he is not aiming for no-deal Brexit.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48602988

[bigblue2]

I'm looking forward to the chaos that's coming, it would be great if whoever gets in next sticks to what they are saying (lol) and leaves with no deal and not paying the divorce bill, I really can't see an upside for anyone being pm now

	Quote:	bigblue2
	I'm looking forward to the chaos that's coming, it would be great if whoever gets in next sticks to what they are saying (lol) and leaves with no deal and not paying the divorce bill, I really can't see an upside for anyone being pm now

It has surprised me that the likes of BoJo and Gove are chucking their hats in the ring at this stage. I'd have thought they'd have gone for PM once Brexit is sorted, and they'd let someone else have their political career sliced and diced in the meantime.

	Quote:	bigblue2
	I'm looking forward to the chaos that's coming, it would be great if whoever gets in next sticks to what they are saying (lol) and leaves with no deal and not paying the divorce bill, I really can't see an upside for anyone being pm now

Saw B. Johnson's Dad and brother on the news and the brother (a Remainer) looked in rather good spirits.. is Boris planning to become PM and then immediately do a complete U turn.

Either way, it's going to be crazy..

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Saw B. Johnson's Dad and brother on the news

Which news? I'm playing catch up at the moment.