The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Blueangel]

Just seen a breaking news piece on tv about 'an incident' this morning...

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	Police called to loud altercation at Boris Johnson's home Neighbour records shouting and banging at flat potential PM shares with Carrie Symonds

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-johnsons-home

Has someone been dipping his wick again?

[Mikers]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Just seen a breaking news piece on tv about 'an incident' this morning... https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-johnsons-home Has someone been dipping his wick again?

Just a couple having a row and a couple of nosey neighbors. To be fair she was touching his laptop without permission by the sound of it. I mean it could have been a top end gaming model and everything.

[Blueangel]

Lots of speculation online as to what they may have argued over. My favourite is:

"She's probably seen all the fathers day cards"

[Blueangel]

Allegedly...

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	"On the recording, heard by the Guardian, Johnson can be heard refusing to leave the flat and telling Symonds to 'get off my ing laptop' before a loud crashing noise. Symonds is heard saying: “You just don’t care for anything because you’re spoilt."

Just for anyone who isn't aware or cares, it's her flat and he moved in to it when he left his wife and 4 kids. Now...if you've moved in with someone, into their home, and have been living there for about 9mths when they tell you to leave, you damned well go. Common sense really.

Rumour mill is now saying that she flipped when he told her that she wouldn't be moving into No.10 with him.

[amogles]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Rumour mill is now saying that she flipped when he told her that she wouldn't be moving into No.10 with him.

Maybe the real reason he is running for PM is because he needs a place to live, and number 10 is just such a place.

[John William]

More on that altercation at Boris Johnson's house !!

Obviously tempers are becoming frayed as the Tory Leadership contest enters it's final stages with the
winner expected to deliver an undeliverable Brexit.



BBC News - Boris Johnson, Police called to Tory leadership contenders home

The same bloke that called the police on Boris also recorded what happened and sold it to the Graun. He also has a stop Boris sticker on his car. Funny that.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	The same bloke that called the police on Boris also recorded what happened and sold it to the Graun. He also has a stop Boris sticker on his car. Funny that.

That's next level conspiracy theory. You think he paid Boris' missus to have an argument and recorded it?

Or you would like to discredit recorded facts as they don't suit your agenda? Funny that.

Play the ball, not the man Lozza.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	The same bloke that called the police on Boris also recorded what happened and sold it to the Graun. He also has a stop Boris sticker on his car. Funny that.

Not my words, but definitely my sentiments:

If people are worried about a woman's safety, they should call the police. If they think that a man trying to become prime minister might be responsible for that, they should tell a newspaper.

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	That's next level conspiracy theory. You think he paid Boris' missus to have an argument and recorded it? Or you would like to discredit recorded facts as they don't suit your agenda? Funny that. Play the ball, not the man Lozza.

The point is that was a private incident that should never have ended up in the press. It’s one thing calling the police because you’re concerned for someone’s safety, it’s another thing entirely to record what was said and sell it to the Graun.

And this was printed in a paper that took the moral high ground over phone hacking.

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	The point is that was a private incident that should never have ended up in the press. It’s one thing calling the police because you’re concerned for someone’s safety, it’s another thing entirely to record what was said and sell it to the Graun. And this was printed in a paper that took the moral high ground over phone hacking.

You have never noticed the Press is full of reports of private incidents?

	Quote:	Loz1983
	The point is that was a private incident that should never have ended up in the press. It’s one thing calling the police because you’re concerned for someone’s safety, it’s another thing entirely to record what was said and sell it to the Graun. And this was printed in a paper that took the moral high ground over phone hacking.

Jesus, seriously?? The next PM has a full on plate-throwing, screaming domestic which ends in a police response and you expect the press to ignore it..?

Now THAT would have stunk of bias!

It‘s not even remotely similar to phone hacking. Well it is if you bend the facts and screw up your eyes really tight.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	The point is that was a private incident that should never have ended up in the press. It’s one thing calling the police because you’re concerned for someone’s safety, it’s another thing entirely to record what was said and sell it to the Graun. And this was printed in a paper that took the moral high ground over phone hacking.

Here you go, from the man himself...

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	“I had my phone on me because I’d gone to pick up a Deliveroo so I was on the phone to the Deliveroo driver. If I saw someone who I thought was in danger on the street I would start filming while seeking help. I was inside my own flat hearing shouting, screaming and banging so I pressed record.” “It felt like if there was something dangerous happening that having a recording of it would be important as evidence. The screaming maxed out the volume of the microphone on my phone through two doors, which is why we became concerned.”

Seems reasonable to me. He tried to intervene (knocked three times with no answer) then used the only avenue left to him, the Polis. Bozza is lucky he doesn't live in Zurich (or nearly as lucky as we are that he doesn't) - he'd definitely have got a big fine for that!

Wonder what your hot take would have been if this was Corbyn.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	... it’s another thing entirely to record what was said and sell it to the Graun.

The Guardian do not pay sources. They pay freelancers, but not sources. If I were in the neighbour's position, that would be a deciding factor in keeping my own reputation intact.

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	Wonder what your hot take would have been if this was Corbyn.

Diane Abbott on the tube with a can of M&S gin and tonic was enough to cause a pearl clutching outrage so I guess any sniff of Corbyn knocking his missus about would be the end of civilisation as we know it...

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	Here you go, from the man himself... Seems reasonable to me. He tried to intervene (knocked three times with no answer) then used the only avenue left to him, the Polis. Bozza is lucky he doesn't live in Zurich (or nearly as lucky as we are that he doesn't) - he'd definitely have got a big fine for that! Wonder what your hot take would have been if this was Corbyn.

I missed the point where he explains how it was reasonable handing the recording over to the guardian.

[rainer_d]

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	Jesus, seriously?? The next PM has a full on plate-throwing, screaming domestic which ends in a police response and you expect the press to ignore it..?

That would have been like the 60s again, when the press was keeping up an image of politicians that no longer matched with reality.

These days, I'm not even sure I want to know all the private scandals, transgressions and debauchery of most politicians. Even those of the hypocrites.

It's just depressing.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	I missed the point where he explains how it was reasonable handing the recording over to the guardian.

If he handed it to the DM or The Sun his entire private life, the value of his house and all his Facebook pictures would have been tipped up, picked over and far-fetched stories splashed all over the headlines. Simple choice.

The point of doing it? Why not? People only bleat about the injustice of it all when the subject of the press‘ ire is someone they like or support.

As StirB asked - would you be taking the trouble to object if it had been Corbyn? I guess not.

[bowlie]

Just curious. Is there a ‘quorum’ for the Conservative member vote? i.e. Do a minimum number of members need to actually vote to have a valid result?

If I had a ballot, I would write in “None of the above”.

[Mikers]

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	If he handed it to the DM or The Sun his entire private life, the value of his house and all his Facebook pictures would have been tipped up, picked over and far-fetched stories splashed all over the headlines. Simple choice.

I love the way it’s all spun to be innocent do-goodery by these neighbors. They heard a row, actually recorded it hoping to make some dough, flogged it to the highest bidder they could find and then the buyer uses it to dish dirt on him using the leftiest paper they can. All neatly served up as a concerned timid neighbour doing their humble best.

So far: the girl - no comment. The police - nothing to see here we aren’t pursuing it, Boris - please leave me with a private life, the guardian and a set of lefties - absolute outrage this man isn’t fit to sweep the streets.