The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[John William]

Domestic dispute - what domestic dispute.
Boris evades the question in true Sir Humphrey Appleby style.

Channel 4 Hustings interview - Boris refuses to comment on domestic row

[marton]

	Quote:	Mikers
	I love the way it’s all spun to be innocent do-goodery by these neighbors. They heard a row, actually recorded it hoping to make some dough, flogged it to the highest bidder they could find and then the buyer uses it to dish dirt on him using the leftiest paper they can. All neatly served up as a concerned timid neighbour doing their humble best. So far: the girl - no comment. The police - nothing to see here we aren’t pursuing it, Boris - please leave me with a private life, the guardian and a set of lefties - absolute outrage this man isn’t fit to sweep the streets.

Do you have any proof of your allegation that "flogged it to the highest bidder"?

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Mikers
	They heard a row, actually recorded it hoping to make some dough, flogged it to the highest bidder they could find

Once again...The Guardian do not pay their sources.

It might have escaped your notice, but a lot of people's first instinct these days, is to hit the record button on their phones if they see or hear anything untoward. As for the two people involved, they made a choice to lose their tempers. They made a choice to raise their voices to such a level that their neighbours (it wasn't just one neighbour) were disturbed, precisely at the time when you would assume that they'd be on their best behaviour.

p.s. Early hours of Friday morning, which is a work day for most, I'd be pissed off at them and / or concerned for my neighbour.

[Mikers]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Once again...The Guardian do not pay their sources. It might have escaped your notice, but a lot of people's first instinct these days, is to hit the record button on their phones if they see or hear anything untoward. As for the two people involved, they made a choice to lose their tempers. They made a choice to raise their voices to such a level that their neighbours (it wasn't just one neighbour) were disturbed, precisely at the time when you would assume that they'd be on their best behaviour. p.s. Early hours of Friday morning, which is a work day for most, I'd be pissed off at them and / or concerned for my neighbour.

I repeat: the story was sold to the guardian.

I’m quite aware people regularly record their phones when they see something unexpected. I don’t think I’ve seen an instance though where a domestic incident where the police turned up, took a look and then publicly said ‘everthing ok we are not taking any more action’ and THEN the story is slapped over the front page of a newspaper that hates the person in question.

But of course you’ll tell me it was all a heroic action of a national hero trying to help a poor women who might have been being attacked.

To repeat - where do we see that the Guardian paid for the recording? Seems more like wishful speculation that he was ‘paid’.

It‘s amazing how much people are shrieking about this.

Even more amazing how people are suddenly suffering from amnesia as to what the media reports.

Who cares what the reasons were that the bloke took it upon himself to inform the papers? It‘s called a scoop. Christ, some sap sold pics of Miliband stuffing a bacon butty into his gob. Where was all the shrieking then?

If Jezza Hunt is caught with his cock in a bowl of jelly tomorrow, do you think there is the chance it wouldn‘t be captured on a phone and sent straight to the media house of choice?

So much naivety here.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Mikers
	I repeat: the story was sold to the guardian.

Prove it.

	Quote:	Mikers
	I’m quite aware people regularly record their phones when they see something unexpected. I don’t think I’ve seen an instance though where a domestic incident where the police turned up, took a look and then publicly said ‘everthing ok we are not taking any more action’ and THEN the story is slapped over the front page of a newspaper that hates the person in question.

Hardly surprising seeing as that was not the course of events.

I suggest you read the report in The Guardian then the one in the DM then come back and tell me which newspaper has really gone to town on him.

Regardless of what anyone may think or believe, if a domestic arguement in the early hours of the morning reaches the point where neighbours fear for the safety of the participants, they are 100% correct in checking to see if their neighbours are safe. If there is no response, they are 100% correct in calling the police. End of!

When one of those people is hoping to imminently be elected the next leader of the country, I believe people have a right to know. His private life has spilled over enough to affect members of the public. If he'd quietly gone about his evening, etc, none of this would have happened. I fail to see how anyone can blame neighbours for something that he chose to do. It's simply not logical.

As several respected political commentaters and members have said today, that last 24hrs press is one of the worst they've seen for the Conservative Party as a whole, and all of it self-inflicted. They all need to take responsibility for their actions because they expect the rest of us to be responsible for ours.

[Blueangel]

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	If Jezza Hunt is caught with his cock in a bowl of jelly tomorrow,

Again... Damn you woman!!!

[k_and_e]

As a father of a daughter, I can only feel sorry for the parents of the girl. Imagine how she would introduce the new boyfriend...

[marton]

Tom Penn, 29, a playwright, who lives with Eve Leigh in the same building as Mr Johnson and Carrie Symonds, said he gave his recording to The Guardian.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ow-girlfriend/

[Mikers]

	Quote:	marton
	Tom Penn, 29, a playwright, who lives with Eve Leigh in the same building as Mr Johnson and Carrie Symonds, said he gave his recording to The Guardian. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ow-girlfriend/

Thttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7170867/Carrie-Symonds-scared-home-recorded-political-stich-neighbours.html

The left wing couple who were concerned for borises girlfriend safety had also earlier boasted about how she gave Boris the finger in the street and shouted ‘Tory scum’.

Gosh they are such gentle and caring people these concerned neighbors.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	I missed the point where he explains how it was reasonable handing the recording over to the guardian.

I'd say an incident involving the police and the likely future PM of the country is quite comfortably covered by "Public Interest".

[Blueangel]

https://twitter.com/DLidington/statu...22392633368576

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	I'd say an incident involving the police and the likely future PM of the country is quite comfortably covered by "Public Interest".

No it’s not. The police said no offence had been committed, therefore it is a private matter.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	No it’s not. The police said no offence had been committed, therefore it is a private matter.

That's not how 'public interest' works within UK law. The same would apply to much lower ranking public servants, and this is the person who is seeking the highest public office in the land.

Case in point...

The findings of his daughter's privacy court case from 2010...

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	(c) The judge was entitled on the evidence before her to find that the claimant's expectation of privacy relating to her paternity was outweighed by the public interest in the father's reckless behaviour. It was noted that this was not the first time the claimant's father had fathered a child after a 'brief adulterous affair'. The Master of the Rolls said in conclusion:- "...The core information in this story, namely that the father had an adulterous affair with the mother, deceiving both his wife and the mother's partner and that the claimant, born about 9 months later, was likely to be the father's child, was a public interest matter which the electorate was entitled to know when considering his fitness for high public office." A full copy of the judgement can be found below:- http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2013/554.html

https://www.brettwilson.co.uk/blog/c...ons-lovechild/


And from 2013...

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	Boris has a younger daughter, Stephanie, who was born in 2009.Her mother is arts advisor Helen Mcintyre who Boris had an affair with. Boris tried to keep the affair under wraps at the time and initially denied paternity. However, in 2013, an injunction seeking to ban reporting of her existence was quashed by the Court of Appeal.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ldren-how-many

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	No it’s not. The police said no offence had been committed, therefore it is a private matter.

Now who were the EFers who have claimed multiple times that Juncker has a drink problem although no offence occurred?

	Quote:	Loz1983
	No it’s not. The police said no offence had been committed, therefore it is a private matter.

If that were true, I wouldn’t even want to guess at how many public figures’ lives have been needlessly dragged through the media on the basis of a simple police callout. Where was all the outrage then?

Come on, Boris is not immune to public interest non-stories any more than any other public figure.

I think the reason most people are chucking their dummies out is because it’s The Guardian. That’s really what’s got under the skin of the right wingers, isn’t it?

‘Squalid’ and ‘tawdry’ are usually the MOs of the Daily Fail and the Sun, right??

[marton]

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	Russians ‘spread fake plot to assassinate Boris Johnson’ on social media

Source

That was last year; it seems they put a lot of effort and resources into the fake but it was never really taken up in a big way by the mainstream social media.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	No it’s not. The police said no offence had been committed, therefore it is a private matter.

Hahahaha. And ha.

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	Hahahaha. And ha.

I am glad you laughed.. this is a rolling joke, right!

Have the neighbours been warned? Soon they'll be blamed for preventing Brexit and screwing up the natural order of things in Tory unicorn land.

Just a selection of the deflection, whataboutery and crap comparisons we've seen over the last day or so. At least it's good to know that so many members are perfectly comfortable with neighbours recording private rows taking place behind closed doors and handing them to the press. The Stasi would be proud.

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	Wonder what your hot take would have been if this was Corbyn.

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	Diane Abbott on the tube with a can of M&S gin and tonic was enough to cause a pearl clutching outrage so I guess any sniff of Corbyn knocking his missus about would be the end of civilisation as we know it...

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	If he handed it to the DM or The Sun his entire private life, the value of his house and all his Facebook pictures would have been tipped up, picked over and far-fetched stories splashed all over the headlines. Simple choice.

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	Christ, some sap sold pics of Miliband stuffing a bacon butty into his gob. Where was all the shrieking then? If Jezza Hunt is caught with his cock in a bowl of jelly tomorrow, do you think there is the chance it wouldn‘t be captured on a phone and sent straight to the media house of choice?

	Quote:	marton
	Now who were the EFers who have claimed multiple times that Juncker has a drink problem although no offence occurred?

	Quote:	Blueangel
	The findings of his daughter's privacy court case from 2010... https://www.brettwilson.co.uk/blog/c...ons-lovechild/ And from 2013... https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ldren-how-many