The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Just a selection of the deflection, whataboutery and crap comparisons we've seen over the last day or so. At least it's good to know that so many members are perfectly comfortable with neighbours recording private rows taking place behind closed doors and handing them to the press. The Stasi would be proud.

I do not remember the Stasi modus operandi involved handing stuff to the Press?

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Just a selection of the deflection, whataboutery and crap comparisons we've seen over the last day or so. At least it's good to know that so many members are perfectly comfortable with neighbours recording private rows taking place behind closed doors and handing them to the press. The Stasi would be proud.

The “whataboutery” seems to be counter-balancing all the shrieking faux outrage nicely, though.

[John William]

Surely Loz's anti-hero Boris thrives on "whataboutery" and "faux pas" as this is par for the course
with Boris Johnson.

[FrankZappa]

Boris could be PM for 24 hours only. Sweet.

From the Times, but text taken from Reddit post, to avoid the firewall.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/...n_pm_for_just/

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	FrankZappa
	Boris could be PM for 24 hours only. Sweet. From the Times, but text taken from Reddit post, to avoid the firewall. https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/...n_pm_for_just/

Would 24 hours be sufficient for a hard Brexit?

	Quote:	FrankZappa
	Boris could be PM for 24 hours only. Sweet. From the Times, but text taken from Reddit post, to avoid the firewall. https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/...n_pm_for_just/

There’s Tories that would rather see the end of their own party than Boris as PM. Delicious.

I’d absolutely piss myself if this plays out and it results with either magic grandpa as PM or The Brexit Party as the largest party in Parliament.

	Quote:	John William
	Surely Loz's anti-hero Boris thrives on "whataboutery" and "faux pas" as this is par for the course with Boris Johnson.

You don’t have to be a fan of Boris to see what’s wrong here. I’ll let George Galloway explain it to you.

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/s...90515578613763

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	FrankZappa
	Boris could be PM for 24 hours only. Sweet.

Crikey!
At this rate Larry will be the cat with 9 PMs.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	I’d absolutely piss myself if this plays out...

Errr... Perhaps you should see a doctor about that

[Blueangel]

There's a certain irony in journalists and political commentators (Galloway, etc) complaining about the ethics of another journalist being handed a scoop.

Considering that two judges have ruled issues in Johnnson's private life be recorded in the public domain as "a matter of public interest" as he is seeking a position of high office, and long before he was running for PM, legally the precedent has been set.

[marton]

	Quote:	FrankZappa
	Boris could be PM for 24 hours only. Sweet.

Too long

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	You don’t have to be a fan of Boris to see what’s wrong here. I’ll let George Galloway explain it to you. https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/s...90515578613763

The seething outrage across Twitter among those that are normally teeth-gnashing over leftie-bleeding-hearts is comedy gold at the mo.

Hope it spawns more for the bants.

[StirB]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	You don’t have to be a fan of Boris to see what’s wrong here. I’ll let George Galloway explain it to you. https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/s...90515578613763

Hint: It's not a secret conversation if it can be heard at the other end of the corridor or on different floors of the building via the high tech medium of the human ear.

[Blueangel]

As has been pointed out to me this evening by a friend in the British police, most local authorities have a number of recording devices that they give to people who raise noise nuisance complaints.

https://guildford.gov.uk/article/18336/Noise

Some councils even offer a noise recording app...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/65...aints-Carlisle

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	As has been pointed out to me this evening by a friend in the British police, most local authorities have a number of recording devices that they give to people who raise noise nuisance complaints. https://guildford.gov.uk/article/18336/Noise Some councils even offer a noise recording app... https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/65...aints-Carlisle

How funny would it be if BoJo got an ASBO?

	Quote:	Blueangel
	As has been pointed out to me this evening by a friend in the British police, most local authorities have a number of recording devices that they give to people who raise noise nuisance complaints. https://guildford.gov.uk/article/18336/Noise Some councils even offer a noise recording app... https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/65...aints-Carlisle

It’s a noise complaint now?

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Sandgrounder
	How funny would it be if BoJo got an ASBO?

Gees. The headlines would be like a Countdown conundrum.

[Mikers]

So it's monday and the picture is at least a bit clearer, though still lots of questions really.

Mr Pen and Ms Leigh, who called the police said at the time they 'voted to stay in the EU in the referendum but that is our entire involvement in politics'. A closer inspection now by the media has shown they wrote an EU Funded Anti-Brexit play, have been giving out vitriolic anti-conservative messages since 2012, have an almost personal hatred of Boris Johnson involving gesticulating, posters, swearing, you name it and having called the Police and then contacted the Guardian have disappeared and not been seen since, which is a bit odd seeing as they only did it out of concern for the welfare of the female resident in the adjoining flat.

The other thing I'm really looking forward to is hearing the tape. The Guardian has it, they have an online website, they have certainly said it contains all sorts of shouting and screaming (though the Police didn't really think that was the case), so it would seem pretty clear - as this has been declared as "in the public interest" - that the recording has to be made public too, otherwise we are going on the words of two hard left anti-brexit fanatics who hate the Conservatives. Difficult to make a judgement call at the moment.

By the way I hate Boris Johnson, I think he is the worst politician ever - even more than Corbyn - but this is just a witchhunt and it always wigs me out when lefties do this.

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	Mikers
	but this is just a witchhunt and it always wigs me out when lefties do this.

It "wigs me out" when people paint their own political leanings as whiter than white...

Not sure the "right-wingers" are innocent wickle lambs who have never over-stepped the mark when it comes to this kind of thing.

Scumbaggery is apolitical.




Still astounded at how much ardent hysteria this is drumming up. Must be the heat...

[StirB]

	Quote:	Mikers
	So it's monday and the picture is at least a bit clearer, though still lots of questions really. Mr Pen and Ms Leigh, who called the police said at the time they 'voted to stay in the EU in the referendum but that is our entire involvement in politics'. A closer inspection now by the media has shown they wrote an EU Funded Anti-Brexit play, have been giving out vitriolic anti-conservative messages since 2012, have an almost personal hatred of Boris Johnson involving gesticulating, posters, swearing, you name it and having called the Police and then contacted the Guardian have disappeared and not been seen since, which is a bit odd seeing as they only did it out of concern for the welfare of the female resident in the adjoining flat. The other thing I'm really looking forward to is hearing the tape. The Guardian has it, they have an online website, they have certainly said it contains all sorts of shouting and screaming (though the Police didn't really think that was the case), so it would seem pretty clear - as this has been declared as "in the public interest" - that the recording has to be made public too, otherwise we are going on the words of two hard left anti-brexit fanatics who hate the Conservatives. Difficult to make a judgement call at the moment. By the way I hate Boris Johnson, I think he is the worst politician ever - even more than Corbyn - but this is just a witchhunt and it always wigs me out when lefties do this.

Again, play the ball, not the man. Who cares if it was the ghost of Idi Amin who had rented a flat in London on AirBNB next door who (correctly) called the police for either a noise complaint or suspected domestic violence (women can be violent to men too, it turns out, so just because a man wasn't screaming, doesn't mean it isn't valid).

Were they right to pass on the recording of the future PM to the Graun - maybe, maybe not, but this is the world we live in these days. Bozza has used the media extensively (or maybe exclusively!) to get into the position he is in now, so he should know better really - if you leave yourself exposed, everyone has a cameraphone, so you're going to get caught out.

[Mikers]

	Quote:	StirB
	Again, play the ball, not the man. Who cares if it was the ghost of Idi Amin who had rented a flat in London on AirBNB next door who (correctly) called the police for either a noise complaint or suspected domestic violence (women can be violent to men too, it turns out, so just because a man wasn't screaming, doesn't mean it isn't valid). Were they right to pass on the recording of the future PM to the Graun - maybe, maybe not, but this is the world we live in these days. Bozza has used the media extensively (or maybe exclusively!) to get into the position he is in now, so he should know better really - if you leave yourself exposed, everyone has a cameraphone, so you're going to get caught out.

how do you know anyone was screaming ? The people who reported it are far from neutral, the police said there was nothing to see, the guardian havent / won't release the recording.

Right now, we have the words of two people who are about as far from neutral as you can get.