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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Either way, he's cooked.
The simple equation is: does this make him less likeable/electable that Jeremy Hunt?
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The simple equation is: does this make him less likeable/electable that Jeremy Hunt?
I cannot think of any two less appealing people to run the country than Boris / Hunt. It should have been Gove but Boris rigged the vote.

I mean its Corbyn, Hunt or Johnson. Nigel Farage must be rubbing his hands...
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Old 24.06.2019, 14:34
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The simple equation is: does this make him less likeable/electable that Jeremy Hunt?
Hunt:
Teachers hate him
NHS hate him
Peculiar view on abortion that he refuses to explain but swears he won't seek to implement.

Johnson:
Proven history of lying
Proven history of wasting public funds on vanity projects
Alleged links with Bannon, a claim that Bannon happily endorses.
Proven numerous extra-marital affairs and multiple children born outside of his marriage.
Conspiracy with Darius Guppy to commit GBH on another journalist (that tape conversation has resurfaced)
Indirectly extending the incarceration and endangering the life of a British national by being carelss with his words and the facts.

Without including numerous allegations that I haven't heard or seen the proof of, the above list is pretty damning.

Under normal circumstances, this interview would have been enough for people to reject Johnson as a candidate, but these are not normal circumstances.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1143068448869814272
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Old 24.06.2019, 15:09
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well i got it all from the papers Marton, so I should be able to refer back.

You must be quaking a bit with the Loz situation though, if he can pursue you for damages for anything defamatory you have written about him on EF.
Remember Lord McAlpine successfully sued 10,000 Twitter users for repeating what was said in a BBC program?

Interesting suggestion that one can defame an anonymous Forum user.
Anyway I do not recall anything defamatory but no doubt you have evidence?
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Hunt:
Teachers hate him
NHS hate him
Peculiar view on abortion that he refuses to explain but swears he won't seek to implement.

Johnson:
Proven history of lying
Proven history of wasting public funds on vanity projects
Alleged links with Bannon, a claim that Bannon happily endorses.
Proven numerous extra-marital affairs and multiple children born outside of his marriage.
Conspiracy with Darius Guppy to commit GBH on another journalist (that tape conversation has resurfaced)
Indirectly extending the incarceration and endangering the life of a British national by being carelss with his words and the facts.

Without including numerous allegations that I haven't heard or seen the proof of, the above list is pretty damning.

Under normal circumstances, this interview would have been enough for people to reject Johnson as a candidate, but these are not normal circumstances.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1143068448869814272
Hunt:
Voted Remain

Boris:
Voted Leave

That’s all that matters.
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Old 24.06.2019, 15:14
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Hunt:
Voted Remain

Boris:
Voted Leave

That’s all that matters.
So you believe Hunt will win
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Old 24.06.2019, 15:21
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So you believe Hunt will win
He has virtually no chance. 70% of Tories are Brexiteers, they’ve seen the mess Theresa May has created and won’t want another Remainer as party leader. All this press bandwagon against Boris is just noise, the party membership won’t be swayed.
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He has virtually no chance. 70% of Tories are Brexiteers, they’ve seen the mess Theresa May has created and won’t want another Remainer as party leader. All this press bandwagon against Boris is just noise, the party membership won’t be swayed.
Are 70% of them No Deal Brexiters, though? Some might be balking at the prospect that Boris will lead them down that path.
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And now she’s getting sued by Arron Banks for her claims made about Russian funding. I’m sure she’ll be able to prove everything in a court of law and so has nothing to worry about.
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Old 24.06.2019, 17:42
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We shall see. The timing is sweet seeing as it's come 48hrs after this article by her...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...gnation-speech

Funny thing is Loz, I'm not, and never have been a Guardian reader. (broadsheets & short arms was always a problem, plus too many supplements & my hatred of clutter ). Carole Cadwalladr was completely off my radar until you were triggered by me posting her tweet, which only came to my attention because a friend retweeted it.
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Old 24.06.2019, 17:55
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Are 70% of them No Deal Brexiters, though?
Have you seen the standard of 'seconds' Boris' team have been sending out to the media today? It's like swatting flies. Absolutely pitiful bunch of witless no marks all insisting that GATT 24 is the way to go and only Boris can do the job. I've rarely, if ever, witnessed such a peculiar assortment of politicians made to look completely dumb by every tv and radio channel that would give them time of day.

I've come the conclusion that there are currently more intellectual people on 'Love Island'. It's been that bad. Marcus Fysh MP on Victoria Derbyshire just wasn't fair. It was like shooting fish in a barrel.
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We shall see. The timing is sweet seeing as it's come 48hrs after this article by her...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...gnation-speech

Funny thing is Loz, I'm not, and never have been a Guardian reader. (broadsheets & short arms was always a problem, plus too many supplements & my hatred of clutter ). Carole Cadwalladr was completely off my radar until you were triggered by me posting her tweet, which only came to my attention because a friend retweeted it.
“Triggered”
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Well here's the top leadership contender and would be Prime Minister, Boris Johnson ducking and
diving round those serious issues & questions over Brexit and the Irish backstop with the
BBC's Laura Kuenssberg.
Make of it, what you will.


BBC Interview with Boris Johnson as he bids to become the next PM
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Well here's the top leadership contender and would be Prime Minister, Boris Johnson ducking and
diving round those serious issues & questions over Brexit and the Irish backstop with the
BBC's Laura Kuenssberg.

BBC Interview with Boris Johnson as he bids to become the next PM
Yep. He is, like May was in 2016, full of brexit bluster and has nothing new to say.

Same old, same old undeliverable nonsense.
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Yep. He is, like May was in 2016, full of brexit bluster and has nothing new to say.

Same old, same old undeliverable nonsense.
He went from barking "definitely leave on 31st October" when he was out on walkabout pressing flesh and posing with babies, to "31st October is feasible" on his TV debate.

Always keeping his options and escape routes open this one...
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True, and his press team should really check the continuity of the photos they release for how long his hair is. Either the garden photo is from several weeks ago, or he's been sleeping with his head in a tub of Miracle Gro.
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True, and his press team should really check the continuity of the photos they release for how long his hair is. Either the garden photo is from several weeks ago, or he's been sleeping with his head in a tub of Miracle Gro.


This style of hot air politics has to end. Dire is the only word I can come up with when reading this shite.

And the daily flap's answer: deflect by rebooting the hate-Megan campaign..
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Meanwhile, at the perennial bitchfight that is Switzerland vs the EU...

According to the DT:

“Switzerland will ban European Union stock exchanges from trading Swiss shares in retaliation for Brussels freezing its bourses out from the EU market. The European Commission refused to grant Swiss stock exchanges access after its patience ran out during negotiations over a long-delayed partnership treaty. “Equivalence”, the system of regulatory recognition used to govern access for financial services in non-EU countries, will now lapse on July 1. In retaliation Bern said it would withdraw recognition from trading venues in the EU from July 1 to “protect the Swiss stock exchange infrastructure in the event of non-extension. “Trading venues in the EU would thus be prohibited from offering or facilitating trading in certain shares of Swiss companies from that date,” the Swiss government said.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...els-escalates/

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This style of hot air politics has to end. Dire is the only word I can come up with when reading this shite.

And the daily flap's answer: deflect by rebooting the hate-Megan campaign..
The Daily Flap was trumpeting that photo and the accompanying story yesterday as the god's honest truth it's the "loved up couple" but today is joining in with the frivolity of Twitter lampooning the photo.

Never was the expression more fitting that 'yesterday's news is wrapping today's fish and chips'.

Politics 2019.
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