The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

	Quote:	rainer_d
	...and we know that both The Donald and Boris are obsessed with details....

Not aimed at you directly, but these continued comparisons between Boris Johnson and Trump are getting out of hand. It’s being normalised by the MSM, I even watched a piece on ZDF last night saying how the two are so alike. You don’t have to like BoJo to see that the Trump comparisons are ridiculous.

[amogles]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Not aimed at you directly, but these continued comparisons between Boris Johnson and Trump are getting out of hand. It’s being normalised by the MSM, I even watched a piece on ZDF last night saying how the two are so alike. You don’t have to like BoJo to see that the Trump comparisons are ridiculous.

ZDF also did a piece once making out Teresa May was very like Margaret Thatcher (somebody ZDF absolutely despises, almost down there on the level of a female Hitler). It just shows the level of hackjob they will descend to. And of course they fail to see the irony that if May had actually acted a bit more like Thatcher, we probably wouldn't have got into this mess in the first place.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Not aimed at you directly, but these continued comparisons between Boris Johnson and Trump are getting out of hand. It’s being normalised by the MSM, I even watched a piece on ZDF last night saying how the two are so alike. You don’t have to like BoJo to see that the Trump comparisons are ridiculous.

Of course you can make comparisons. Saying there is none at all is equally ridiculous and naive, because comparisons do exist.

There are probably more similarities between Trump and Farage, to be fair.

[John William]

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	Of course you can make comparisons. Saying there is none at all is equally ridiculous and naive, because comparisons do exist. There are probably more similarities between Trump and Farage, to be fair.

Trump and BoJo are chips off the same block as far as their buffoonery and gaffes are concerned with
Farage acting as always, as The Joker.

[bigblue2]

	Quote:	John William
	Trump and BoJo are chips off the same block as far as their buffoonery and gaffes are concerned with Farage acting as always, as The Joker.

boris acts the fool, trump is one

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	amogles
	And of course they fail to see the irony that if May had actually acted a bit more like Thatcher, we probably wouldn't have got into this mess in the first place.

A contradiction in itself as it's Thatcher herself who got the UK into the EU in the first place.

	Quote:	Urs Max
	A contradiction in itself as it's Thatcher herself who got the UK into the EU in the first place.

Yes, I remember when she was Prime Minister in 1973 and ordered the UK to join the EEC ... a position which was confirmed by a referendum with a resounding majority a couple of years later, by the way. Oh, and also when she was PM in 1993, when the EU was formed out of the EEC.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Not aimed at you directly, but these continued comparisons between Boris Johnson and Trump are getting out of hand. It’s being normalised by the MSM, I even watched a piece on ZDF last night saying how the two are so alike. You don’t have to like BoJo to see that the Trump comparisons are ridiculous.

May I enquire as to what we are allowed to compare?

You can compare anything (to anything!), to suggest otherwise is ridiculous. Look, I'm comparing Boris to Hitler...Boris isn't as bad...see, that wasn't so painful.

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Not aimed at you directly, but these continued comparisons between Boris Johnson and Trump are getting out of hand. It’s being normalised by the MSM, I even watched a piece on ZDF last night saying how the two are so alike. You don’t have to like BoJo to see that the Trump comparisons are ridiculous.

There is one very strong similarity between Boris Johnson and Trump; neither of them believe in anything - they just support whatever will benefit them politically; even if that contradicts what they did yesterday.

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	May I enquire as to what we are allowed to compare? You can compare anything (to anything!), to suggest otherwise is ridiculous. Look, I'm comparing Boris to Hitler...Boris isn't as bad...see, that wasn't so painful.

You can compare what you want, my point is when supposed respected news outlets (and MPs, commentators etc.) are telling their consumers that they should be wary because Trump and Boris are cut from the same cloth, then it's time to stop taking them seriously.

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	You can compare what you want, my point is when supposed respected news outlets (and MPs, commentators etc.) are telling their consumers that they should be wary because Trump and Boris are cut from the same cloth, then it's time to stop taking them seriously.

I never did take Trump and Boris seriously

[amogles]

	Quote:	marton
	There is one very strong similarity between Boris Johnson and Trump; neither of them believe in anything - they just support whatever will benefit them politically; even if that contradicts what they did yesterday.

A trait they hold in common with about 99 % of politicians worldwide.

[greenmount]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	You can compare what you want, my point is when supposed respected news outlets (and MPs, commentators etc.) are telling their consumers that they should be wary because Trump and Boris are cut from the same cloth, then it's time to stop taking them seriously.

Maybe that's the truth, even if you can't accept it. They're both some sort of populistic clowns, no?

I mean seriously, what's in it for you to defend this Boris so much and recommend precaution with the media, you of all people, Loz? Seriously? Doesn't come in handy only when it suits you? Just saying.

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	Yes, I remember when she was Prime Minister in 1973 and ordered the UK to join the EEC ... a position which was confirmed by a referendum with a resounding majority a couple of years later, by the way. Oh, and also when she was PM in 1993, when the EU was formed out of the EEC.

True and true although for part 1 she was a member of the government concerned.

Although it is worth remembering she was one of the main drivers behind the Single Market and that the Single European Act came from her time as PM.

	Quote:	greenmount
	Maybe that's the truth, even if you can't accept it. They're both some sort of populistic clowns, no? I mean seriously, what's in it for you to defend this Boris so much and recommend precaution with the media, you of all people, Loz? Seriously? Doesn't come in handy only when it suits you? Just saying.

Saying that a comparison is faulty is not the same as defending them. You joining Sandgrounder in the “I’m going to put words in your mouth” club?

[Mikers]

	Quote:	greenmount
	Maybe that's the truth, even if you can't accept it. They're both some sort of populistic clowns, no? I mean seriously, what's in it for you to defend this Boris so much and recommend precaution with the media, you of all people, Loz? Seriously? Doesn't come in handy only when it suits you? Just saying.

No, they aren't. Donald Trump is, by most reckoning, populist, and possibly a clown depending on your criteria for clownship. Boris is not though, and that you think he is a clown shows you fall in line wiht many people who a taken by his bumbling buffoon act. He is astute and calculating, not necessarily good things, but I definitely wouldnt put him in the camp of clown, because he knows what he is doing.

[Blueangel]

Just wondering if I'm the only one here joining the dots lately? For those of a more curious mind...

Lega's alleged connections to Russia under investigation.
Isabel Oakshott's 'leak' r.e. British Ambassador
Her connections to Arron Banks and Lord Ashcroft.
The peculiar locations of Lord Ashcroft's yachts.
Etc...etc...etc...

Nothing to see here and no comparisons to be made.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Just wondering if I'm the only one here joining the dots lately? For those of a more curious mind... Lega's alleged connections to Russia under investigation. Isabel Oakshott's 'leak' r.e. British Ambassador Her connections to Arron Banks and Lord Ashcroft. The peculiar locations of Lord Ashcroft's yachts. Etc...etc...etc... Nothing to see here and no comparisons to be made.

You and Crazy Cat Woman makes two.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	You and Crazy Cat Woman makes two.

Who is crazy cat woman? I heard from a solicitor friend in the UK who's been following the activities of Arron Banks.

[Mikers]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Who is crazy cat woman? I heard from a solicitor friend in the UK who's been following the activities of Arron Banks.

I heard from a UK colleague who is well up in these things, that it was The Lib Dems who organized the leak. a low blow.