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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
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How would that fit with this?

Journalist defends publishing leaked Darroch memos

http://news.sky.com/video/share-11761408
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How would that fit with this?

Journalist defends publishing leaked Darroch memos

http://news.sky.com/video/share-11761408
Your right, that more or less confirms it. Good spot.

As she says, these cables go to hundreds of people sometimes so whoever has gotten access to them and given them to journalists - including her - may yet have more.
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Old 12.07.2019, 15:37
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Your right, that more or less confirms it. Good spot.
Pray tell how this confirms your theory seeing as it comes from a devout Tory mouthpiece with long standing close ties to Lord Ashcroft?
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Old 12.07.2019, 15:43
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Pray tell how this confirms your theory seeing as it comes from a devout Tory mouthpiece with long standing close ties to Lord Ashcroft?
She is saying that the US diplomat cables go out to many people so she probably wasnt the only person to have received them. She was just doing her job publishing it, she's a news person. The key question is who leaked the cables to her and for that you have to look more closely at the libdems.
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She is saying that the US diplomat cables go out to many people so she probably wasnt the only person to have received them. She was just doing her job publishing it, she's a news person. The key question is who leaked the cables to her and for that you have to look more closely at the libdems.
What possible reason would there be for the Libs to have those cables in the first place?

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ailure-brexit/
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No, they aren't. Donald Trump is, by most reckoning, populist, and possibly a clown depending on your criteria for clownship. Boris is not though, and that you think he is a clown shows you fall in line wiht many people who a taken by his bumbling buffoon act. He is astute and calculating, not necessarily good things, but I definitely wouldnt put him in the camp of clown, because he knows what he is doing.

So did the last Viceroy of India, apparently.
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Had to laugh at Boris Johnson's final pitch to become Prime Minister in his interview with Andrew Neil
on the BBC tonight.

After sidelining a number of awkward direct questions put to Boris, he ended the interview with a rallying
cry against the Red Peril - namely what this country needs is face up to the very real danger of
seeing a Marxist PM in number 10 and it's effects on the wealthy privileged classes in terms of IHT, etc.

Along the lines of once I've finally delivered Brexit the greatest threat is not the EU but the danger
of the UK becoming a Soviet Socialist Republic.


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Had to laugh at Boris Johnson's final pitch to become Prime Minister in his interview with Andrew Neil
on the BBC tonight.
That was painful to watch. Is Boris really that optimistic or is he just playing it to get the vote? Is he being set up as a convenient buffoon/fall-guy for when it all goes pear-shaped (again) in October?
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I seriously wonder which was the 'inept' government here. I can think of new reason why the British Government appeared to acknowledge the existence of these reports.

Why the hell wasn't the British Governments statement "We can neither admit nor deny the existence of these alleged memos. It could very well be fake news."

"If you wish further clarification please refer to the paragraph above."

Morons and Clowns.
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Yes yet another expense to be deducted from the so called savings from the Brexit dividend - in fact with
HMG getting themselves seriously committed to forking out millions if not billions of pounds of taxpayers
money to setup their own Sat-nav system - that they would have otherwise have got on the cheap and
as an EU member state benefit - if the UK had voted to remain in the EU and therefore have remained
in the EU's Galileo sat-nav system project.

So where are the savings from leaving the EU ?
As all I see is extra cost to the British taxpayer thanks to Brexit !!
BTW, the EU's Galileo sat-nav system project has been down for four days now; no official statement on the cause of the outage!!
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Old 16.07.2019, 13:08
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BTW, the EU's Galileo sat-nav system project has been down for four days now; no official statement on the cause of the outage!!



Nothing serious.
Probably just a blown fuse.
Somebody just has to get up there and switch it out.
Or maybe somebody from the ISS can pop by and do it?
;-)
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Old 16.07.2019, 13:11
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Nothing serious.
Probably just a blown fuse.
Somebody just has to get up there and switch it out.
Or maybe somebody from the ISS can pop by and do it?
;-)
I think the AA will go up there...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dvSPmVtgew
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Old 16.07.2019, 14:08
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Nothing serious.
Probably just a blown fuse.
Somebody just has to get up there and switch it out.
Or maybe somebody from the ISS can pop by and do it?
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Fortunately the problem is apparently in a ground station. Users were officially notified by GNSS on the 11th
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Old 16.07.2019, 14:19
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No, they aren't. Donald Trump is, by most reckoning, populist, and possibly a clown depending on your criteria for clownship. Boris is not though, and that you think he is a clown shows you fall in line wiht many people who a taken by his bumbling buffoon act. He is astute and calculating, not necessarily good things, but I definitely wouldnt put him in the camp of clown, because he knows what he is doing.
Depending on your definition of populism, Boris is probably more the populist than Trump in that he has a finger on the pulse of what people think and want and can create the impression that he is capable of giving it to them (rightly or wrongly). When he was major of London, the left never grew to like him but they never really had much leverage against him as Boris had a better grip on the political middle ground. He was a sort of tory version of Obama, an insider pretending to be an outsider, and a smooth talker with a massive aura of intellectualism who could sell BS for gold and who made people look up to him and respect him, whether they agreed with him or not. A politician and an anti-politician rolled into one. Trump is the complete opposite of that. Rather than disarming his critics, he tosses them scraps and snippets to fight over. He seems to relish the bickering coming from his opponents. In fact it confirms and justifies him.
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He was a sort of tory version of Obama, an insider pretending to be an outsider, and a smooth talker with a massive aura of intellectualism who could sell BS for gold and who made people look up to him and respect him, whether they agreed with him or not. A politician and an anti-politician rolled into one.


It always astounds me how two people can view the same person is such entirely different lights. I don't recognise any of that description.
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Fortunately the problem is apparently in a ground station. Users were officially notified by GNSS on the 11th
Users are hoping for a more specific explanation in addition to a cure. It is 6 days now.

Saying the problem is in a ground station is the motor mechanics equivalent to saying "your car problem is in the car".

There are around 20 ground stations with different functions so after almost a week one might think Galileo would be able to say which actual ground station?
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Users are hoping for a more specific explanation in addition to a cure. It is 6 days now.

Saying the problem is in a ground station is the motor mechanics equivalent to saying "your car problem is in the car".

There are around 20 ground stations with different functions so after almost a week one might think Galileo would be able to say which actual ground station?
https://www.gsa.europa.eu/newsroom/n...tions-underway

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This just means that they don't know how to fix it.
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There are around 20 ground stations with different functions so after almost a week one might think Galileo would be able to say which actual ground station?
Very sensitive information in respect of a terrorist attack, so I doubt we’ll here very much.
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Either way, the fact that it's down for a week isn't exactly inspiring confidence.


No estimate given for when it will be operational again.



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Very sensitive information in respect of a terrorist attack, so I doubt we’ll here very much.
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