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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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How would that fit with this?

Journalist defends publishing leaked Darroch memos

http://news.sky.com/video/share-11761408
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How would that fit with this?

Journalist defends publishing leaked Darroch memos

http://news.sky.com/video/share-11761408
Your right, that more or less confirms it. Good spot.

As she says, these cables go to hundreds of people sometimes so whoever has gotten access to them and given them to journalists - including her - may yet have more.
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Old 12.07.2019, 14:37
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Your right, that more or less confirms it. Good spot.
Pray tell how this confirms your theory seeing as it comes from a devout Tory mouthpiece with long standing close ties to Lord Ashcroft?
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Pray tell how this confirms your theory seeing as it comes from a devout Tory mouthpiece with long standing close ties to Lord Ashcroft?
She is saying that the US diplomat cables go out to many people so she probably wasnt the only person to have received them. She was just doing her job publishing it, she's a news person. The key question is who leaked the cables to her and for that you have to look more closely at the libdems.
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She is saying that the US diplomat cables go out to many people so she probably wasnt the only person to have received them. She was just doing her job publishing it, she's a news person. The key question is who leaked the cables to her and for that you have to look more closely at the libdems.
What possible reason would there be for the Libs to have those cables in the first place?

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The source who leaked Sir Kim Darroch’s diplomatic cables was exacting revenge over the ambassador's alleged failure to promote a pro-Brexit Britain in Washington
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ailure-brexit/
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No, they aren't. Donald Trump is, by most reckoning, populist, and possibly a clown depending on your criteria for clownship. Boris is not though, and that you think he is a clown shows you fall in line wiht many people who a taken by his bumbling buffoon act. He is astute and calculating, not necessarily good things, but I definitely wouldnt put him in the camp of clown, because he knows what he is doing.

So did the last Viceroy of India, apparently.
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Had to laugh at Boris Johnson's final pitch to become Prime Minister in his interview with Andrew Neil
on the BBC tonight.

After sidelining a number of awkward direct questions put to Boris, he ended the interview with a rallying
cry against the Red Peril - namely what this country needs is face up to the very real danger of
seeing a Marxist PM in number 10 and it's effects on the wealthy privileged classes in terms of IHT, etc.

Along the lines of once I've finally delivered Brexit the greatest threat is not the EU but the danger
of the UK becoming a Soviet Socialist Republic.


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Old 13.07.2019, 15:00
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Had to laugh at Boris Johnson's final pitch to become Prime Minister in his interview with Andrew Neil
on the BBC tonight.
That was painful to watch. Is Boris really that optimistic or is he just playing it to get the vote? Is he being set up as a convenient buffoon/fall-guy for when it all goes pear-shaped (again) in October?
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I seriously wonder which was the 'inept' government here. I can think of new reason why the British Government appeared to acknowledge the existence of these reports.

Why the hell wasn't the British Governments statement "We can neither admit nor deny the existence of these alleged memos. It could very well be fake news."

"If you wish further clarification please refer to the paragraph above."

Morons and Clowns.
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