The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[amogles]

	Quote:	greenmount
	I would say it's a perfect example of how conservatives do racism, antagonising people and appealing the most sensitive segment of voters just to meet their agenda.

Just wondering, how many Roma or people from other minorities are there in the Romanian cabinet?

[John William]

At last Jacob Rees-Mogg gets the position he's been craving for . . . . . .

Jacob Rees-Mogg to be appointed Viceroy of India


Lol.

[marton]

	Quote:	amogles
	Just wondering, how many Roma or people from other minorities are there in the Romanian cabinet?

Interesting you mention Romania which is a country that cares about ethnic minorities.
The Romanian Constitution provides seats in the Chamber of Deputies for the party and cultural association of ethnic minorities in Romania. Traditionally, these groups support the government in power.
17 seats were awarded in the last election in accordance with the constitutional provision.

Just as long as you've got a nice cabinet, nowt else matters.. lol!

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	marton
	More than half the Cabinet gone! Nobody left to argue with Boris!!

Except for that half of the cabinet who are now on the back benches and free to vote as they choose, and the half of the press who know him personally and hate him with a vengeance. This could become a rather vicious episode.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	This is the cabinet that should have been formed 3 years ago instead of the useless indulging and dithering we’ve seen from Theresa May.

I kind of agree with that, but some figures weren't as prominent then, JRM for one.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	There’s also the added advantage that three of the great offices of state are taken up by the children of migrants, the Left are FEWMIN!

Why? Michael Howard (who famously sacked Boris) was the son of a Romanian immigrant. It's nothing new.

What does concern me greatly is Cummings role. You might as well forego all search engines for the foreseeable future because you'll only get the results he wants you to see. Time to get out the books and rely on what you actually know.

Just before all trace of misdoing disappears into the ether at the hands of Cummings, lets just remind ourselves why the disgraced Priti Patel was forced to resign less than 2yrs ago...

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	But Ms Patel’s promotion will raise eyebrows due to the manner of her departure from government less than two years ago, which involved a plan to funnel UK foreign aid money to the Israeli army, while she was international development secretary.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9018616.html

She's a horrific, vile woman and I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her.

As for the rest... nah! No great shakes. Nothing to see, but I do hope someone buys the new Foreign Secretary an atlas. He's going to need it clearly has never owned one.

Everything about this cabinet feels short term. This isn't the final mix, but it's good to see proper politicians in there like Amber Rudd and Nicky Morgan, but then you get the dross like Esther McVey. Gees!

[Blueangel]

Cracking article from Chris Allnutt...

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	Out with the new, in with the old: Johnson's Cabinet defies disgrace

https://www.politics.co.uk/comment-a...inet-defies-di

[marton]

No surprise

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	Brussels has roundly rebuffed Boris Johnson after he laid down tough conditions for the new Brexit deal he hopes to strike over the summer. Speaking to the House of Commons for the first time as prime minister on Thursday, Johnson reiterated his campaign pledge of ditching the Irish backstop and promised to ramp up preparations for a no-deal Brexit immediately. “I would prefer us to leave the EU with a deal,” he said. “I would much prefer it. I believe that it is possible even at this late stage, and I will work flat-out to make it happen. In a phone call later in the day, the European commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, signalled the EU27’s determination to stick with the deal negotiated with Theresa May’s government – which includes the backstop. “President Juncker listened to what Prime Minister Johnson had to say, reiterating the EU’s position that the withdrawal agreement is the best and only agreement possible – in line with the European council guidelines,” a commission spokesperson said.

Source

Why are major countries led by buffoons?

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Cracking article from Chris Allnutt... https://www.politics.co.uk/comment-a...inet-defies-di

It’s a terrible article. He’s describing this selection like it’s something new. How many times were Peter Mandelson and David Blunkett invited back to the cabinet following scandals? How about we take a look at who would be in key positions if the opposition were in power? A chancellor that’s a Marxist and a Home Secretary that can’t count.

Then there’s Gavin Williamson who was sacked despite a complete lack of evidence. Not to mention the outright lie that Dominic Raab stepped down as “he couldn't support the deal he himself had negotiated”.

It’s merely just another Tory hater having yet another meltdown.

Haters a plenty and here's a lovely Tory specimen.. sewer politics at its finest.

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/sta...10268379959296

[StirB]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Haters a plenty and here's a lovely Tory specimen.. sewer politics at its finest. https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/sta...10268379959296

Francois is the worst of all worlds. Ideological and genuinely thick.

Him failing to grasp basic set theory with Will Self is a YouTube clip that's difficult not to watch over and over again.

	Quote:	StirB
	Francois is the worst of all worlds. Ideological and genuinely thick. Him failing to grasp basic set theory with Will Self is a YouTube clip that's difficult not to watch over and over again.

How he gets the unchallenged air time is astonishing - he just sits and spouts non-stop sh!te. Will Self cracks me up, a real Mr. Cool.

[SponPlague]

	Quote:	Sandgrounder
	Why change a winning formula? Made-up EU directives about bent bananas, no-suck vacuum cleaners and the eco-lightbulbs were dog-whistles for Brexiters the first time around, not to mention his made up stories in the Times. Some (or maybe now the number has grown significantly) just want a PM that will amplify their echo-chamber and tell them what they want to hear, regardless of whether it's the truth. Facts, reality and balance seem to be the weakness of the "Remoaner lefties" and their "Project Fear".

Bent bananas only had to be sold half price. It was bent cucumbers that were banned, till they got sick of the negative publicity and scrapped the rules.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comm...C)_No._2257/94
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors.../#678da74b6fc9

[Blueangel]

It took you almost 2 weeks to come up with a response? We've had a new PM and new government since then.

[SponPlague]

Been busy and not on here...

[StirB]

So, to all of those Brexiteers banking on getting a top notch trade deal from the Trump & the USA...it turns out he prefers Ireland....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...liticians-warn

I hate to say we told you so, but we told you so. A lot.

	Quote:	StirB
	So, to all of those Brexiteers banking on getting a top notch trade deal from the Trump & the USA...it turns out he prefers Ireland.... https://www.theguardian.com/politics...liticians-warn I hate to say we told you so, but we told you so. A lot.

And we’ve told you a lot that the UK will not put up any border checks in the event of a no deal Brexit. A lot.

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	And we’ve told you a lot that the UK will not put up any border checks in the event of a no deal Brexit. A lot.

Seems Boris did not get the memo as he is demanding the EU drop the backstop, which is intended to safeguard the open border after Brexit.

	Quote:	marton
	Seems Boris did not get the memo as he is demanding the EU drop the backstop, which is intended to safeguard the open border after Brexit.

If you really believe that then you’ve not been paying attention.

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	If you really believe that then you’ve not been paying attention.

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	The Irish government has described the backstop as an insurance policy to make sure Ireland's 500-km (300-mile) land border with the British province of Northern Ireland remains open, whatever the outcome of the negotiations on Britain's departure from the EU

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	Boris Johnson has said it is up to the EU to compromise to avoid a no-deal Brexit, after his demands for the backstop to be scrapped were met with a flat refusal from the Irish taoiseach, Leo Varadkar.

And so?

	Quote:	marton
	And so?

The PM doesn't know what he is doing.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4201866.html

Boris hints the UK could remain in EU single market and customs union until 2021 in bid to avoid cliff edge exit.. after a pretend bluff brexit?

I bet Theresa May is laughing into her cornflakes this morning.