The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

	Quote:	John William
	Unfortunately the last 3 years have proved that it's lost an awful lot of respectability, what with all the Mayhem and other Parliamentary business being kicked down the road thanks to Brexit - that ends up with putting that buffoon, Boris Johnson in No. 10 Don't think anyone in their right mind would have voted for a course of events that leads to that !!

Exactly this. It's a whole new situation now. The horse is dead. We need a new one.

Well this thread has become a bit more civilized, hasn't it. Not sure why, but long may it continue.

I just wish all the politicians would put personal gain and ego aside and do something. This groundhog limbo thing is terrible.











I know, I know. I'd also like a unicorn for Christmas...

There are no plans, no answers, no forward thinking, just the threat of leaving on the 31st Oct with no deal.

Do brexiteers not care about what is going to happen?

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/sta...25624344403968

Dominic Cummings seems to be the one working the puppet, Boris. Sounds a bit of a snake...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e_iOSApp_Other

[John William]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	There are no plans, no answers, no forward thinking, just the threat of leaving on the 31st Oct with no deal. Do brexiteers not care about what is going to happen? https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/sta...25624344403968

For Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Dominic Raab, Stephen Barclay, Jacob Rees-Mogg and the rest of the
living dead that makes up the ERG. Implementing a No Deal Brexit on the 31st October must feel like
'a walk in the grass' for all they have to do is - Do absolutely nothing - to see their No Deal Brexit
dreams come true.

If anybodys doing something - it's the Remainers who ( no doubt ) have already booked tickets
for the Queen on the Eurostar train for Brussels to ( go over the head of Bojo ) either by getting
another extension or ( if were lucky ) revoke Britain's departure from the EU.

I just read some of the brexiteers comments in that thread. Talk of suppliers all organised and sorted - french cheese, Spain's oranges, the fruit/veg.

When is the penny going to drop that we have to trade with the bloc, not individual countries within the EU?

Why is there such a stubborn forceful ignorance blanketing logic when it comes to leaving without a deal? When challenged, there is no answer.. just the repeat of petulant emotional attacks on remainers.

[Mikers]

	Quote:
	Dominic Cummings seems to be the one working the puppet, Boris. Sounds a bit of a snake... https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e_iOSApp_Other

He’s the new Alistair Campbell. Unelected but one of the most powerful people in Britain. He’s also had a colourful work history because he never ever shows people respect no matter how senior they are. It’s looking like a short and vicious battle over the next couple of months will finally decide the EU / UK future as the political situation gets resolved internally finally.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:
	Dominic Cummings seems to be the one working the puppet, Boris. Sounds a bit of a snake... https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e_iOSApp_Other

Another entertaining read about Cummings. Makes me wonder if Benedict Cumberbatch is geared up to portray him in the sequel.

	Quote:
	Dominic Cummings, the latest self-appointed genius to run 10 Downing Street, is the most deluded of them all

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a9045766.html

[marton]

	Quote:	k_and_e

Well if the age of Farage's request is a year old somehow invalidates it then how valid is a three year old referendum decision?

[porsch1909]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	I just read some of the brexiteers comments in that thread. Talk of suppliers all organised and sorted - french cheese, Spain's oranges, the fruit/veg. When is the penny going to drop that we have to trade with the bloc, not individual countries within the EU? Why is there such a stubborn forceful ignorance blanketing logic when it comes to leaving without a deal? When challenged, there is no answer.. just the repeat of petulant emotional attacks on remainers.

I don't want Spanish oranges anyway. I want BRITISH Oranges

	Quote:	porsch1909
	I don't want Spanish oranges anyway. I want BRITISH Oranges

All joking aside, I don't think any baby formula is made in the UK. Certainly "our " brand is made in Ireland. Or Calpol etc. It's a concern for things like these.

Mind you, by the "logic " of some leavers we should just wait for the babies to grow up and vote... problem solved.

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	porsch1909
	I don't want Spanish oranges anyway. I want BRITISH Oranges

That is going to become a very long list...

	Quote:	Jim2007
	That is going to become a very long list...

Let's start one:

Oranges
Bananas
Tomatoes (my dad has a pretty good crop but he can't supply everyone)

And if our oranges are not big or juicy enough, it will be the EU's fault.

Grumble.

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	I just read some of the brexiteers comments in that thread. Talk of suppliers all organised and sorted - french cheese, Spain's oranges, the fruit/veg. When is the penny going to drop that we have to trade with the bloc, not individual countries within the EU?

I can see those French farmers shouting that they will never sell their products to the UK again, to teach the British a lesson.


That's almost as likely as mass protests in the EU where people demand importing the great British food.

	Quote:	k_and_e
	I can see those French farmers shouting that they will never sell their products to the UK again, to teach the British a lesson. That's almost as likely as mass protests in the EU where people demand importing the great British food.

I imagine us leaving has caused a rather indifferent shrug amongst the French.

This is scary stuff.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...8?guccounter=2

	Quote:	Swisstree
	This is scary stuff. https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...8?guccounter=2

Listen to James O'Brien's phone in and you'll see that a large swathe of Brexit voters have zero clue what they've got themselves in for, or the reasons they've done it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrWewvty4gI

I have no doubt there are plenty of similarly ill-informed Remainers too, but they weren't for changing the status quo of the country for a brand of nonsense they had no idea the consequences of.

[jan2]

If the 52-48 vote was based on incomplete information and a bunch of lies then how come all the Brexiters are so upset about "not implementing the will of the people"! The vote is only meaningful if it is based on full and complete information. Parliament also represents the will of the people and they could not decide if its better to take the May's deal, no deal or remain. Then its obvious that the people must also be confused (except the hardliners). However, in such a situation it should be carefully analyzed which is the best choice, instead of pushing a hard Brexit (which only a minority supports - is this really democracy or hypocrisy). After all, the reality of the economic crisis will arrive and then there will really be "a special place in hell" for all the clowns Or do you think they will be loved and adored by the British people? So lib dems and labor should actually support hard Brexit, because they will be able to come to power after the conservatives and Farage are shown to be who they really are?