The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[John William]

EHIC Cards issued in the EU or an EEA member state like Switzerland will no longer
be accepted in the UK in the event of a No Deal Brexit.

Sorry to interrupt the conversation but just wanted to point out that with Brexit day less than
3 months away and the likelihood that were in for a Hard Brexit come the 31st October.
Then please be advised that the EHIC card is dying a death in the UK because JRM and those
fundamental Brexiteers in the ERG say that to remain in the EHIC scheme, would mean that Britain
must be at least be subservient to the EU via the EEA or European Economic Area agreement
states; and perish the thought that any right thinking Brexiteer should be found carrying
a EHIC card, that could make him or her a vassal of the EU after Brexit Day.

Gov.uk - Visit Europe after Brexit - the demise of the EHIC card in Britain

Still never fear BoJo's here with alternative arrangements enshrined in the Healthcare
(European Economic Area and Switzerland) Arrangements 2019 Act which has passed through
Parliament but has yet to be agreed with many of the various European EU Countries and
those in the EEA, like Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein.

Here we go. More of the same. It's not just J.O'Brien's show, the criticisms and facts regarding nonsensical brexit are everywhere now.

https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1159218950376435712

See the legit common-sense response posts in this thread.

I don't see brexiteers making any sense, do you? It's just a blame game and the constant whine and moan about remainers.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	3Wishes
	Is the sky really going to fall on 31 Oct and there won't be food in stores or medicines, etc.

Yes and no.
The sky won't fall.

Two close friend who are Type 1 diabetics are very concerned because their GPs are unusually concerned. One of them is a former ICU nurse and was a bank nurse until his health a few years ago, so he knows his stuff and isn't prone to exaggerating when it comes to the medical of things.

Medical radiosotopes are an issue of grave concern because they have a short lifespan and cannot be stockpiled. The trials of alternative supply chains were quite successful, but a few areas raised serious concerns.

https://www.bbc.com/news/education-49153073

https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.bnms.org.u..._johnson_o.pdf


Financial services passporting rights will literally cease overnight. (Yes, that old chestnut again, but there's no sign of any movement on this).

For a lot more info, please see here - https://www.ft.com/content/3a35dfd6-...2-799a3a8cf37b


Finally, the last of my friends announced last week that she has begun stockpiling. It began with another friend's parents dedicating an entire bedroom to stockpiling over 6mths ago. We all laughed at the time. Another friend let slip during Wimbledon that she was stockpiling Prosecco in the garage and her husband had begun to complain that he couldn't get the car in, but from that conversation it emerged that most of my former colleagues are stockpiling. I asked a few friends, and they all are too.

My friend has started small with jars of olives, capers, spices and tinned tomatoes, but she's begun to routinely check where her favourite ingredients come from and is making a list of items to consider. She's coming over in December and bringing a load of stuff that I've asked for. The irony is, she might be shopping at Swiss prices to get a bargain on some things to take back to the UK. We shall see...

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Financial services passporting rights will literally cease overnight. (Yes, that old chestnut again, but there's no sign of any movement on this).

It seems there is a new wrinkle on this one for the professionals. The Irish qualifications obtained by U.K. accountants, solicitors and barristers for the purpose of representing their clients in the EU after BREXIT will not be recognized unless they are resident and practicing in Ireland or are resident in another EU/EEA/CH state, having practiced in Ireland at some previous time.

A morning laugh with UK Rail.

https://twitter.com/joncstone/status...90022887870464

[gaburko]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	A morning laugh with UK Rail. https://twitter.com/joncstone/status...90022887870464

This is brilliant! Brexit in a nutshell

That's exactly why Brexit should happen the Boris way. Once ones weak bluff is called, things change dramatically.

[marton]

UK GDP for the three months ended June contracted 0.2% compared to the previous quarter, the Office for National Statistics said Friday. Experts had expected growth to be flat. UK economy shrinks for first time since 2012.

A recession is when the GDP growth rate is negative for two consecutive quarters or more.

"Boris Johnson’s chief of staff cancelled all leave for government advisers until 31 October in a missive on Thursday night, raising further speculation the government is planning for a forced snap election in the aftermath of the UK leaving the EU with no deal."

So once again Boris looks like taking us into a huge mess, then letting everyone else pick up the pieces. Sigh.

[greenmount]

	Quote:
	Let's start one: Oranges Bananas Tomatoes (my dad has a pretty good crop but he can't supply everyone)

Climate change on cards, you will be there sooner than you expect.


Someone here said he didn't mind global warming because UK will have a nice production of wines.
Frankly, I am not entirely convinced this was a joke.

[FrankZappa]

A good article explaining why an election is much more likely ahead of 31st Oct. than immediately after. Despite Dominic Cummings suggesting that a post-Brexit would be a good idea.

The reason is simple enough, pre-Brexit, the waffle has still not been destroyed by the post-Brexit chaos.

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/e...-boris-johnson

[Blueangel]

Today, Sterling hit a new 5yr low against the Euro, a new 10yr low against the Dollar and is a smidge away from a new 10yr low against CHF. The current 10yr low against CHF is 1.6988 and it's currently 1.17056 up from 1.17020 a short while ago. And Brexit hasn't even happened yet.

Edit: 23:20 Just went to 1.16891 against CHF

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	greenmount
	Someone here said he didn't mind global warming because UK will have a nice production of wines. Frankly, I am not entirely convinced this was a joke.

I've had a couple of bottles of rose Champagne delivered to a friend in the UK today for her 40th birthday party tomorrow. Must say, I was tempted by the reviews of the English sparkling wines but ended up going for the proper stuff.

Also, I meant to try growing watermelons this year but didn't get around to it. Definitely will have a bash next year.

I carried a watermelon.

[Blueangel]

Could you recognise it in a line up?

It's none of those. HtH.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:
	It's none of those. HtH.

Phew! should we really be calling Lil Rufus MkII 'a watermelon'?

Dirty Dancing reference.

[grumpygrapefruit]

	Quote:	greenmount
	Climate change on cards, you will be there sooner than you expect. Someone here said he didn't mind global warming because UK will have a nice production of wines. Frankly, I am not entirely convinced this was a joke.

No joke for sure. The UK already makes plenty of excellent wines in the south of England, there's even one wine maker just outside Leeds in Yorkshire.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	I've had a couple of bottles of rose Champagne delivered to a friend in the UK today for her 40th birthday party tomorrow. Must say, I was tempted by the reviews of the English sparkling wines but ended up going for the proper stuff. Also, I meant to try growing watermelons this year but didn't get around to it. Definitely will have a bash next year.

You should believe those reviews, some of the sparkling wines from the south of England (especially Kent, Sussex and Cornwall) are world beaters and often, pound for pound, are better quality value than actual Champagne.

A succinct and on-the-ball account of Brexit so far from Tony Connelly RTE Europe editor.

https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/sta...69582631399429

[Ace1]

	Quote:	grumpygrapefruit
	You should believe those reviews, some of the sparkling wines from the south of England (especially Kent, Sussex and Cornwall) are world beaters and often, pound for pound, are better quality value than actual Champagne.

Largely because of the inflated prices of the "real thing". Personally I think that the Alsace Crémants offer by far the best product/price ratio, especially if bought in France where they start from around 5 euros in supermarkets. Go up to 10 for a Cru Prestige and it will certainly be better than most champagnes up in the 20-30 euro price range.