The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	greenmount
	Would a British citizen be allowed to buy that kind of properties in Europe after a no-deal agreement? I know one person in this discussion who made no secret they bough smth. similar in Hungary, wonder if they woke up and wanted to do that later... I don't think it would have been that easy in the absence of these agreements, simply being a British would have not sufficed, despite of what some very entitled and "superior" people might think.

I think it's only Switzerland that restricts purchase. Plenty of Brits owned in the French Rivera in the 1950/60's long before the UK joined the common market. Plenty of American non residents also own property in the EU

[Clocker]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	I think it's only Switzerland that restricts purchase.

And these restrictions are not that difficult to get around via a permit.

Liechtenstein, owing to its small size, still heavily restricts purchase.

[amogles]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	I think it's only Switzerland that restricts purchase. Plenty of Brits owned in the French Rivera in the 1950/60's long before the UK joined the common market. Plenty of American non residents also own property in the EU

I understand some countries have restrictions over farmland, but these are not so much nationality based as much as that you need to be a farmer to be allowed to buy, or may only buy when no actual farmer is interested. It happens in France quite a bit to the vinyards in protected DOC/AOC areas for example, as local communes may fear these could get ploughed under and turned into golf courses or something..

[Belgianmum]

Just when you think things couldn’t get any worse Boris goes and pulls a stunt like this:


Government asks Queen to suspend Parliament https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49493632

	Quote:	Clocker
	About time. MPs are unlikely to have time to pass any laws that could stop the prime minister taking the UK out of the EU without a deal on 31 October. A No 10 source said: "It's time a new government and new PM set out a plan for the country after we leave the EU."

Feels a bit like a dictatorship to me: Boris doesn't really know what to do but he'll be damned if he lets anyone help. A dick move.

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	Just when you think things couldn’t get any worse Boris goes and pulls a stunt like this: Government asks Queen to suspend Parliament https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49493632

Nightmare.

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	Nightmare.

The Tories are having a strong showing of late in the trophy for "Worst PM Ever".

[fatmanfilms]

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	The Tories are having a strong showing of late in the trophy for "Worst PM Ever".

The only PM since Mrs T who did what they said the would

[bigblue2]

you just couldn't make this shit up

[Clocker]

	Quote:	Reb77Br
	Perhaps Her Mag will put on her EU flag outfit and tell him to naff orf.

Highly unlikely.

[Blueangel]

https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/st...52410619498497


https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/st...58605182902272

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	The only PM since Mrs T who did what they said the would

Not deliver?

[Blueangel]

This isn't the endgame that it might appear to be. Thankfully, the UK has astute political correspondents and commentators who have ruminated many potential scenarios, which has allowed the legal establishment the precious time to get all their ducks in a row. I'm angry that the government has taken this route when it knows full well that the legal big guns are waiting.

Something to watch out for, the stripping of authority of the UK's elected MPs by government members and cabinet ministers. The ever more ironnically named James Cleverly did it yesterday by repeatedly referring to the opposition MPs as "these people". That was a blatant attempt to diminish the authority or our duly elected MPs in the eyes of the public when he knows full well that they are his peers.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	This isn't the endgame that it might appear to be. Thankfully, the UK has astute political correspondents and commentators who have ruminated many potential scenarios, which has allowed the legal establishment the precious time to get all their ducks in a row. I'm angry that the government has taken this route when it knows full well that the legal big guns are waiting. Something to watch out for, the stripping of authority of the UK's elected MPs by government members and cabinet ministers. The ever more ironnically named James Cleverly did it yesterday by repeatedly referring to the opposition MPs as "these people". That was a blatant attempt to diminish the authority or our duly elected MPs in the eyes of the public when he knows full well that they are his peers.

Well in that case it's a hostage situation.

[Jim2007]

So the UK government decides how much democracy there is in the UK....

Every state in the EU is run by a government held accountable to a parliament, elected by the people in accordance with its constitution, except the UK! So the UK, like Turkey, no longer meets the basic requirements for EU membership!

We’ve gone from a high principle of returning control to a sovereign parliament to screw parliament I’m going to have my way.

The UK has a defender of the faith, we wait to see if she is a defender of the constitution as well...

There is nothing to celebrate in this, a sad day.

Petition already up and running. 75,000 signatures total, 60,000 in the last hour.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/269157

[Clocker]

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	Petition already up and running. 75,000 signatures total, 60,000 in the last hour. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/269157

Yes, it seems the remoaners will stop at nothing to halt Brexit. They'll need another 18 million before it's looked at though.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	There is nothing to celebrate in this, a sad day.

Exactly.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	The only PM since Mrs T who did what they said the would

I'm not sure that's always a good thing

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Clocker
	Yes, it seems the remoaners will stop at nothing to halt Brexit. They'll need another 18 million before it's looked at though.

The petition is to prevent parliment being prorogued and technically, it only needs 100k "to be looked at" and it has exceeded that already, so you're wrong on both counts. The rule of law will out.