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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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The petition is to prevent parliment being prorogued and technically, it only needs 100k "to be looked at" and it has exceeded that already, so you're wrong on both counts. The rule of law will out.
What nonsense. The previous petition didn't work and this one won't come into it either.
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Old 28.08.2019, 14:45
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Yes, it seems the remoaners will stop at nothing to halt Brexit. They'll need another 18 million before it's looked at though.
Not true. Ah. Blueangel beat me to it.
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Old 28.08.2019, 14:46
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What nonsense. The previous petition didn't work and this one won't come into it either.
But it was debated in the house, so you're wrong again.
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So what would it take for remainers to accept leaving?
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But it was debated in the house
Which only meant more time was wasted, as it came to nothing.
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What nonsense. The previous petition didn't work and this one won't come into it either.
Based on your intimate knowledge of UK procedures? You're very heavily invested in Brexit for someone who hasn't lived in the UK for a good number of years and seems not to like the place very much.

But the whole point of the petition is to get a discussion going.
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And I said that where?
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Old 28.08.2019, 14:50
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Thats why we had the referendum in the first place after discussion & parliament voted by a huge majority, same for Art 50. Can't see what is left to discuss as parliament could not agree on anything since.
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Old 28.08.2019, 14:51
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A little test for Clocker and FMF...

What do you believe the be the primary legal reason for preventing the proroguing of Parliament before 1 November?
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What nonsense. The previous petition didn't work and this one won't come into it either.
Maybe so but it's a brave government which ignores a not insignificant volume of people objecting to such a monumental event.

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Thats why we had the referendum in the first place after discussion & parliament voted by a huge majority, same for Art 50. Can't see what is left to discuss as parliament could not agree on anything since.
The whole Brexit thing came about after multiple attempts at petitioning parliament either by paper or online. Didn't happen for a long time but finally Cameron saw it as a vote winner for the Tories and caved in.
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Old 28.08.2019, 14:53
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The petition is to prevent parliment being prorogued and technically, it only needs 100k "to be looked at" and it has exceeded that already, so you're wrong on both counts. The rule of law will out.

Sadly, don't hold your breath - there are other petitions well over the requisite 100k that have been waiting 6 months for a debate date. OTOH strength of feeling expressed through this, if it reaches similar numbers to the revoke A50 petition, might influence wavering Tory MPs
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So what would it take for remainers to accept leaving?
Actually leaving. A decision actually being made and a solution found. The whole things is Schroedinger's Cat at the moment.

Acceptance isn't the same as liking.
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Old 28.08.2019, 14:55
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And I said that where?
You never have, explicitly, which is why I said seem. I'm extrapolating. Inferring. Deducing. Going with my gut.
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Old 28.08.2019, 15:08
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And I said that where?
You may not have said it explicitly but you have certainly inferred it many many times.
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Old 28.08.2019, 15:11
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The petition is to prevent parliment being prorogued and technically, it only needs 100k "to be looked at" and it has exceeded that already, so you're wrong on both counts. The rule of law will out.
To be looked at is a vague term.

Positions are so entrenched by now that I don't think any new debate will change anything, just waste valuable time.

More talk about something that was written on the side of a bus is not going to solve the immediate deadlock.
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Old 28.08.2019, 15:36
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

In the video half-way down the page here (Boris Johnson asks Queen to suspend Parliament) Nicola Sturgeon says that the Queen is in a difficult position, but that it's not her role to stop this, rather the role of Parliament, which she says needs to act quickly now.
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Well, this is very interesting.. will there be a return to May's Deal vs No Deal, I wonder??

Prorogation of Parliament - Commons Library briefing - UK Parliament - Since no-one else has mentioned this - It means that the Withdrawal Agreement can return and be voted on again, thus offering MPs the opportunity to avoid No Deal

https://twitter.com/hbaldwin/status/1166672281608818689
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Old 28.08.2019, 15:56
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More talk about something that was written on the side of a bus is not going to solve the immediate deadlock.
Perhaps you need to read this...

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Consideration of Lords amendments

MPs debated Lords Amendments to the Northern Ireland Executive Formation) Bill. Some MPs continued to express concern that some of the amendments to the Bill were about Brexit, rather than Northern Ireland, while others felt that abortion and equal marriage related amendments infringe on Northern Ireland's devolved rights.


The House of Commons voted to amend Lords Amendment 1, which would make it more difficult for the Government to prorogue Parliament in the run up to October 31, the day on which the UK is scheduled to leave the EU. The amended Amendment was subsequently approved and the Bill now returns to the House of Lords for further consideration.
https://www.parliament.uk/business/n...ommons-stages/
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Yes, it seems the remoaners will stop at nothing to halt Brexit. They'll need another 18 million before it's looked at though.
It is no longer about BREXIT, do you even understand the consequences - You have a government that no longer believes it is accountable to a so called sovereign parliament. If a government can suspend parliament when it does not like the outcome, you have a dictatorship.
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Getting smothered in the proroguing news...

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9080756.html

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