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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 28.08.2019, 17:09
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Yes. Because it is necessary, not nonsense. It is only nonsense in your opinion.
And the opinion of the majority.

Leave 17,410,742 51.89%
Remain 16,141,241 48.11%
Again, spurious.

Plenty of people, even ones on here, have said they don't mind Brexit not being beneficial, as long as it means leaving the EU.
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Nonsense. Since when does voting for Brexit mean hating the UK? If anything it's the opposite and the majority of people voted the way I did - for that very reason!
You voted? I thought voting rights were lost after 15 years. Or am I getting confused?
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You voted? I thought voting rights were lost after 15 years. Or am I getting confused?
Yes. You had to still have been on an electoral roll to claim a vote. I was.
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Old 28.08.2019, 17:11
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Yes. Because it is necessary, not nonsense. It is only nonsense in your opinion.
And the opinion of the majority.

Leave 17,410,742 51.89%
Remain 16,141,241 48.11% Tired of this now.
Leave was never touted as No Deal, though. The leave that was sold to the population in 2015/16 is meaningless compared to the dog's dinner on offer now.

Even BoJo said a no deal was a million to one chance, and not let's forget the people's darling, Nigel Farage, loudly proclaimed before the result that a narrow result of, say, 48/52 would not go unchallenged. He strangely shut his gob after the (narrow) result went his way, though.
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Old 28.08.2019, 17:12
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That is not a majority of the electorate, nor a majority of legal residents, nor a substantial majority of people casting votes. Nor does it include many British citizens who were (despite Conservative Party commitments) denied a vote. It also includes commonwealth citizens resident in the UK, but not EU nationals who are equally affected.

And the referendum was advisory, not binding, which in itself affected the number of votes cast.
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Yes. You had to still have been on an electoral roll to claim a vote. I was.
But not a UK resident for a while? Interesting.

I would like to know why you think leaving the EU would be good for the UK.
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Old 28.08.2019, 17:14
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I would like to know why you think leaving the EU would be good for the UK.
I think we should send whatever answer comes back to BoJo. He's desperate for something that sounds even vaguely plausible...
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Old 28.08.2019, 17:18
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I think we should send whatever answer comes back to BoJo. He's desperate for something that sounds even vaguely plausible.
I don't think he'd be interested. His job is to implement the decision taken by the people when they voted 'leave' in the referendum which the previous PM failed to do. His job is not to question why leaving will be good for the UK.
The answer to this question was only relevant before the vote.
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Old 28.08.2019, 17:20
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I don't think he'd be interested. His job is to implement the decision taken by the people when they voted 'leave' in the referendum which the previous PM failed to do. His job is not to question why leaving will be good for the UK.
The answer to this question was only relevant before the vote.
So much wrong with this, I'm actually embarrassed for you.
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Christ. It's been appproved by Her Maj. Parliament to be suspended early Sept, no later than 14th, til mid-Oct.
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Old 28.08.2019, 17:22
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I don't think he'd be interested. His job is to implement the decision taken by the people when they voted 'leave' in the referendum which the previous PM failed to do. His job is not to question why leaving will be good for the UK.
The answer to this question was only relevant before the vote.
That's not an answer. It's OK if you don't have one. Just stop with the holier-than-thou schtick.

I still don't understand how you can remain on UK electoral role. Unless you're also a UK resident. I would like to know.
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Christ. It's been appproved by Her Maj. Parliament to be suspended earky Sept, no later than 14th, til mid-Oct.
Hardly surprising! What were you expecting?!
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I still don't understand how you can remain on UK electoral role. Unless you're also a UK resident. I would like to know.
You don't get taken off automatically. You get taken off when someone living at that address updates the details. Electoral rolls are never up to date in the UK.
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So much wrong with this, I'm actually embarrassed for you.
Kind of sums up the whole sorry affair to a tee, though. At least it has now put to bed the nagging doubt I had that I was somehow missing the point of Brexit but it's now there in black and white that, actually, there is no point, or not one that anyone can actually see anyway.

/Final curtain.
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Old 28.08.2019, 17:27
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Hardly surprising! What were you expecting?!
I'm not surprised, sadly, frustrated and venting. It's so many shades of outrageous.
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I still don't understand how you can remain on UK electoral role. Unless you're also a UK resident. I would like to know.
Voting under false pretences, if one has not been a resident in the U.K. for more than 15 years one is no longer allowed to vote in U.K. elections.
She obviously exploited a loop hole somewhere in order to remain on the electoral register which in my opinion is morally reprehensible.

She’s banging on about doing the right thing and implementing the result of the referendum but it seems to me that she wasn’t so hot on doing the right thing when it came to voting in the referendum herself.
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Voting under false pretences, if one has not been a resident in the U.K. for more than 15 years one is no longer allowed to vote in U.K. elections.
She obviously exploited a loop hole somewhere in order to remain on the electoral register which in my opinion is morally reprehensible.
We've discussed it before as I feel you know/remember. Residence didn't come into it. You had to be on an electoral roll within the last 15 years. Barely anyone contacts their last address in the UK to take their details off the electoral roll. The following residents might update the details, if they never do though, you could well still be on there and even at more than one address come to think about it.
Nonetheless I don't think my one vote will cause the UK to leave the EU.
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We've discussed it before as I feel you know/remember. Residence didn't come into it. You had to be on an electoral roll within the last 15 years. Barely anyone contacts their last address in the UK to take their details off the electoral roll. The following residents might update the details, if they never do you could still be on there.
Nonetheless I don't think my one vote will cause the UK to leave the EU.
It still doesn’t make it morally right and you know it.
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It still doesn’t make it morally right and you know it.
Perhaps it wasn't. I just felt it was necessary. I had a strong feeling about it.
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Hardly surprising! What were you expecting?! You don't get taken off automatically. You get taken off when someone living at that address updates the details. Electoral rolls are never up to date in the UK.
Untrue. It gets updated every year at least as there is a form sent to every household. You can also amend details whenever you wish via council websites. A non-reply to the letter to neither confirm nor amend details is subject to a £1k fine. If someone didn't take your name off it could have affected their council tax, home and contents insurance etc.

So, if it was left on after you left that address and were no longer paying Council Tax... It's more than an oopsy. It makes both you and the folk not checking who is determined to be officially at their address both idiots and potentially liable.
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Perhaps it wasn't. I just felt it was necessary. I had a strong feeling about it.
Ah, that's all right then. As long as you felt it necessary. I'd still like to know what's so good about Brexit, in your opinion.
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