The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[bowlie]

That is not a majority of the electorate, nor a majority of legal residents, nor a substantial majority of people casting votes. Nor does it include many British citizens who were (despite Conservative Party commitments) denied a vote. It also includes commonwealth citizens resident in the UK, but not EU nationals who are equally affected.

And the referendum was advisory, not binding, which in itself affected the number of votes cast.

	Quote:	Clocker
	Yes. You had to still have been on an electoral roll to claim a vote. I was.

But not a UK resident for a while? Interesting.

I would like to know why you think leaving the EU would be good for the UK.

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	I would like to know why you think leaving the EU would be good for the UK.

I think we should send whatever answer comes back to BoJo. He's desperate for something that sounds even vaguely plausible...

[Clocker]

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	I think we should send whatever answer comes back to BoJo. He's desperate for something that sounds even vaguely plausible.

I don't think he'd be interested. His job is to implement the decision taken by the people when they voted 'leave' in the referendum which the previous PM failed to do. His job is not to question why leaving will be good for the UK.
The answer to this question was only relevant before the vote.

	Quote:	Clocker
	I don't think he'd be interested. His job is to implement the decision taken by the people when they voted 'leave' in the referendum which the previous PM failed to do. His job is not to question why leaving will be good for the UK. The answer to this question was only relevant before the vote.

So much wrong with this, I'm actually embarrassed for you.

Christ. It's been appproved by Her Maj. Parliament to be suspended early Sept, no later than 14th, til mid-Oct.

	Quote:	Clocker
	I don't think he'd be interested. His job is to implement the decision taken by the people when they voted 'leave' in the referendum which the previous PM failed to do. His job is not to question why leaving will be good for the UK. The answer to this question was only relevant before the vote.

That's not an answer. It's OK if you don't have one. Just stop with the holier-than-thou schtick.

I still don't understand how you can remain on UK electoral role. Unless you're also a UK resident. I would like to know.

[Clocker]

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	Christ. It's been appproved by Her Maj. Parliament to be suspended earky Sept, no later than 14th, til mid-Oct.

Hardly surprising! What were you expecting?!

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	I still don't understand how you can remain on UK electoral role. Unless you're also a UK resident. I would like to know.

You don't get taken off automatically. You get taken off when someone living at that address updates the details. Electoral rolls are never up to date in the UK.

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	So much wrong with this, I'm actually embarrassed for you.

Kind of sums up the whole sorry affair to a tee, though. At least it has now put to bed the nagging doubt I had that I was somehow missing the point of Brexit but it's now there in black and white that, actually, there is no point, or not one that anyone can actually see anyway.

/Final curtain.

	Quote:	Clocker
	Hardly surprising! What were you expecting?!

I'm not surprised, sadly, frustrated and venting. It's so many shades of outrageous.

[Belgianmum]

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	I still don't understand how you can remain on UK electoral role. Unless you're also a UK resident. I would like to know.

Voting under false pretences, if one has not been a resident in the U.K. for more than 15 years one is no longer allowed to vote in U.K. elections.
She obviously exploited a loop hole somewhere in order to remain on the electoral register which in my opinion is morally reprehensible.

She’s banging on about doing the right thing and implementing the result of the referendum but it seems to me that she wasn’t so hot on doing the right thing when it came to voting in the referendum herself.

[Clocker]

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	Voting under false pretences, if one has not been a resident in the U.K. for more than 15 years one is no longer allowed to vote in U.K. elections. She obviously exploited a loop hole somewhere in order to remain on the electoral register which in my opinion is morally reprehensible.

We've discussed it before as I feel you know/remember. Residence didn't come into it. You had to be on an electoral roll within the last 15 years. Barely anyone contacts their last address in the UK to take their details off the electoral roll. The following residents might update the details, if they never do though, you could well still be on there and even at more than one address come to think about it.
Nonetheless I don't think my one vote will cause the UK to leave the EU.

[Belgianmum]

	Quote:	Clocker
	We've discussed it before as I feel you know/remember. Residence didn't come into it. You had to be on an electoral roll within the last 15 years. Barely anyone contacts their last address in the UK to take their details off the electoral roll. The following residents might update the details, if they never do you could still be on there. Nonetheless I don't think my one vote will cause the UK to leave the EU.

It still doesn’t make it morally right and you know it.

[Clocker]

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	It still doesn’t make it morally right and you know it.

Perhaps it wasn't. I just felt it was necessary. I had a strong feeling about it.

	Quote:	Clocker
	Hardly surprising! What were you expecting?! You don't get taken off automatically. You get taken off when someone living at that address updates the details. Electoral rolls are never up to date in the UK.

Untrue. It gets updated every year at least as there is a form sent to every household. You can also amend details whenever you wish via council websites. A non-reply to the letter to neither confirm nor amend details is subject to a £1k fine. If someone didn't take your name off it could have affected their council tax, home and contents insurance etc.

So, if it was left on after you left that address and were no longer paying Council Tax... It's more than an oopsy. It makes both you and the folk not checking who is determined to be officially at their address both idiots and potentially liable.

	Quote:	Clocker
	Perhaps it wasn't. I just felt it was necessary. I had a strong feeling about it.

Ah, that's all right then. As long as you felt it necessary. I'd still like to know what's so good about Brexit, in your opinion.

[Clocker]

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	Untrue. It gets updated every year at least as there is a form sent to every household. You can also amend details whenever you wish via council websites. A non-reply to the letter to neither confirm nor amend details is subject to a £1k fine. If someone didn't take your name off it could have affected their council tax, home and contents insurance etc. So, if it was left on after you left that address and were no longer paying Council Tax... It's more than an oopsy. It makes both you and the folk not checking who is determined to be officially at their address both idots and potentially liable.

It was a student house and I have never paid council tax or home insurance in the UK, so none of that is relevant and it wouldn't have affected those who were residing there in subsequent years.

It only gets updated if someone fills something in and sends it off. This was 20 years ago. I was taken off a couple of years after leaving.

[Belgianmum]

	Quote:	Clocker
	Perhaps it wasn't. I just felt it was necessary. I had a strong feeling about it.

I had a strong feeling about it too but unlike you I had done the right thing and was no longer on the electoral roll when I left the UK so was unable to vote.

How did you not have to send back the forms for all those years and continue to receive the voting papers overseas? There is something very fishy about it all if you ask me.

[bowlie]

Ah ... Queen Elizabeth II, the last monarch of the Excited Kingdom. I suppose it is for the best as her heir is pretty well useless.

[bigblue2]

didn't feel strongly enough to go back and live with the coming shit storm though.