The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH - Page 1080

Clocker · #**21581** 28.08.2019, 17:49

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	Untrue. It gets updated every year at least as there is a form sent to every household. You can also amend details whenever you wish via council websites. A non-reply to the letter to neither confirm nor amend details is subject to a £1k fine. If someone didn't take your name off it could have affected their council tax, home and contents insurance etc. So, if it was left on after you left that address and were no longer paying Council Tax... It's more than an oopsy. It makes both you and the folk not checking who is determined to be officially at their address both idots and potentially liable.

It was a student house and I have never paid council tax or home insurance in the UK, so none of that is relevant and it wouldn't have affected those who were residing there in subsequent years.

It only gets updated if someone fills something in and sends it off. This was 20 years ago. I was taken off a couple of years after leaving.

Belgianmum · #**21582** 28.08.2019, 17:51

	Quote:	Clocker
	Perhaps it wasn't. I just felt it was necessary. I had a strong feeling about it.

I had a strong feeling about it too but unlike you I had done the right thing and was no longer on the electoral roll when I left the UK so was unable to vote.

How did you not have to send back the forms for all those years and continue to receive the voting papers overseas? There is something very fishy about it all if you ask me.

bowlie · #**21583** 28.08.2019, 17:52

Ah ... Queen Elizabeth II, the last monarch of the Excited Kingdom. I suppose it is for the best as her heir is pretty well useless.

bigblue2 · #**21584** 28.08.2019, 17:53

didn't feel strongly enough to go back and live with the coming shit storm though.

Belgianmum · #**21585** 28.08.2019, 17:54

	Quote:	Clocker
	It was a student house and I have never paid council tax or home insurance in the UK, so none of that is relevant and it wouldn't have affected those who were residing there in subsequent years. It only gets updated if someone fills something in and sends it off. This was 20 years ago. I was taken off a couple of years after leaving.

If you left 20 years ago and you were taken off a couple of years after leaving that’s still 18 years ago which makes you ineligible anyway.

As I said, I smell fish here.

Clocker · #**21586** 28.08.2019, 17:54

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	I had a strong feeling about it too but unlike you I had done the right thing and was no longer on the electoral roll so was unable to vote. How did you not have to send back the forms for all those years and continue to receive the voting papers overseas? There is something very fishy about it all if you ask me.

How many more times? I was NOT on the electoral roll. You had to have been on an electoral roll in the UK within the 15 years preceding the vote. I contacted that municipality to be able to exercise my right to vote as per the law and they immediately sent me the necessary documents to my address in Switzerland.

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	If you left 20 years ago and you were taken off a couple of years after leaving that’s still 18 years ago which makes you ineligible anyway.

The vote was in 2016, that's over three years ago.

#**21587** 28.08.2019, 17:57

	Quote:	Clocker
	How many more times? I was NOT on the electoral roll. You had to have been on an electoral roll in the UK within the 15 years preceding the vote. I contacted that municipality to be able to exercise my right to vote as per the law and they immediately sent me the necessary documents to my address in Switzerland. The vote was in 2016, that's over three years ago.

Yup, I'm calling BS.

It's OK if you didn't vote, we won't judge you.

Clocker · #**21588** 28.08.2019, 17:58

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	Yup, I'm calling BS. It's OK if you didn't vote, we won't judge you.

Please stop. It's unnecessary and you're not funny.

#**21589** 28.08.2019, 18:00

	Quote:	Clocker
	Please stop. It's unnecessary and you're not funny.

Illegally voting then crowing about it was unnecessary, calling you out for it is very necessary.

bigblue2 · #**21590** 28.08.2019, 18:01

really I don't mind how anyone voted, really, I don't. Doesn't affect me either way as we've no plans to go back and as soon as the leave vote won I got my Irish passport

I've just yet to hear a single credible (ie not proven to be total BS) reason why any leave voter actually voted that way, its very interesting to me why leavers get so aggressive and defensive when asked that simple question to.

Clocker · #**21591** 28.08.2019, 18:02

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	Illegally voting then crowing about it was unnecessary, calling you out for it is very necessary.

No. You implied that I did not vote, i.e. that I am not telling the truth.
Why would say I voted (apparently even illegally), if I didn't?!
I politely ask you again to please stop.

#**21592** 28.08.2019, 18:03

	Quote:	Clocker
	It was a student house and I have never paid council tax or home insurance in the UK, so none of that is relevant and it wouldn't have affected those who were residing there in subsequent years. It only gets updated if someone fills something in and sends it off. This was 20 years ago. I was taken off a couple of years after leaving.

So... how did you vote? Or did you just squeak under the 15 years? I hope you had some kind of insurance. Ouch.

Ah. Asked and kind of answered.

So. Yes please Brexit. Why? It could have dramatic negative repercussions for your EU /EEA life. I would like to understand.

Clocker · #**21593** 28.08.2019, 18:05

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	So... how did you vote? Or did you just squeak under the 15 years?

Yes, I believe that they must have seen that I had been on their electoral roll within the 15 years preceding and thus sent me out the paperwork. That was the requirement. There was no actual residence requirement legally speaking.

#**21594** 28.08.2019, 18:06

	Quote:	Clocker
	No. You implied that I did not vote, i.e. that I am not telling the truth. Why would say I voted (apparently even illegally), if I didn't?! I politely ask you again to please stop.

You are a whirlwind of contradiction and haven't outlined how you managed to vote legally as yet, therefore I don't believe you voted.

If you did vote, then you are a disgrace.

Hope that helps clarify my position.

bigblue2 · #**21595** 28.08.2019, 18:08

I don't think anyone would ever claim they had voted leave if they didn't

#**21596** 28.08.2019, 18:10

	Quote:	bigblue2
	I don't think anyone would ever claim they had voted leave if they didn't

I think hugely pro-Brexit people would claim it as a badge of honour.

bigblue2 · #**21597** 28.08.2019, 18:10

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	I think hugely pro-Brexit people would claim it as a badge of honour.

but they are exactly the kind of people who would go the extra mile to vote

Clocker · #**21598** 28.08.2019, 18:11

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	You are a whirlwind of contradiction and haven't outlined how you managed to vote legally as yet, therefore I don't believe you voted. If you did vote, then you are a disgrace.

But I am not the one who has a problem with my vote. If you believe it was illegal, prove that my vote was illegal.
I did vote and have no reason to tell you I did if I didn't.
If you read the previous posts you will see that I agreed partially with BelgianMum insofar as I said that perhaps it was morally wrong as she pointed out.

eng_ch · #**21599** 28.08.2019, 18:11

	Quote:	Clocker
	Yes, I believe that they must have seen that I had been on their electoral roll within the 15 years preceding* and thus sent me out the paperwork. That was the requirement.*

Definitely fishy IMV. If that were the case, you would be able to vote up to 29.9 years after leaving the UK, in which case I demand my voting rights be backdated so I can express my view in the Referendum
Legally you can only vote up to 15 years after leaving the UK. If you were not asked by your council, then that was negligent of them. If you didn't declare it, that is illegal of you. And Brexiters dismiss notions of the Ref having been won through illegalities

#**21600** 28.08.2019, 18:11

	Quote:	Clocker
	Yes, I believe that they must have seen that I had been on their electoral roll within the 15 years preceding and thus sent me out the paperwork. That was the requirement. There was no actual residence requirement legally speaking.

So... you don't live in the UK, have never contributed financially to the UK, but you felt the need to stand up and be counted - believed that you had the right to be able to vote about what happens to a country you don't live in and probably never will live in? That's pretty lousy.

And I would still like to know why Brexit is so great.