The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

	Quote:	bigblue2
	but they are exactly the kind of people who would go the extra mile to vote

...Or not do something illegal and possibly get reprimanded, but say they did anyway.

Tricky one, need more details from Clocker tbh, it's all very woolly at the moment.

[Clocker]

	Quote:	eng_ch
	you would be able to vote up to 29.9 years after leaving the UK

How would you manage that?
The only scenario where that would be possible if is at the address you were last registered you were not taken off in one way or another for 15 years after leaving.

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	have never contributed financially to the UK

This is your automatic assumption and is wholly incorrect. Not paying council tax does not mean not contributing to the UK.
There are other taxes, which I definitely did pay thank you very much.

	Quote:	Clocker
	But I am not the one who has a problem with my vote. If you believe it was illegal, prove that my vote was illegal. I did vote and have no reason to tell you I did if I didn't. If you read the previous posts you will see that I agreed partially with BelgianMum insofar as I said that perhaps it was morally wrong as she pointed out.

I have no need to prove it was illegal. It was shabby, that's enough for me to pass comment.

From the description you have given, it certainly was illegal though, I hope for your sake you avoid censure...electoral fraud is probably one of those crimes Switzerland would deport you back to the UK for.

[bigblue2]

people need to calm down a bit, clocker is being brave admitting he voted leave on a thread that is overwhelmingly remainers.

so if he says he voted leave lets take that at face value, whats done is done

Still curious to know the reason, especially as you don't live in the uk clocker

[bowlie]

So next will be a no confidence motion. It appears the speaker would not object. If just a handful of Conservative MP’s support, or even abstain, we will have an election.

So now, despite my non-UK nationality, how do I register to vote.

Not sure of the legal ins and outs but just for the sake of argument:

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	If you’re moving or living abroad You can register as an overseas voter for up to 15 years after leaving the UK, as long as: you’re a British or eligible Irish citizen you were registered to vote in the UK within the previous 15 years (or, in some cases, if you were too young to have registered when you left the UK) If you want to vote in England, Scotland or Wales, register to vote in the normal way. If you want to vote in Northern Ireland, you need to register by post. You have to renew your registration every year. You’ll get a reminder when it’s time to renew. If you do not renew your registration, you’ll be removed from the register and must make a fresh application in order to vote again.

From here.

	Quote:	bowlie
	So next will be a no confidence motion. It appears the speaker would not object. If just a handful of Conservative MP’s support, or even abstain, we will have an election. So now, despite my non-UK nationality, how do I register to vote.

Pick any UK address you ever lived in and contact that council for a form. Hope the person who answers your call is new.

	Quote:	bigblue2
	people need to calm down a bit, clocker is being brave admitting he voted leave on a thread that is overwhelmingly remainers. so if he says he voted leave lets take that at face value, whats done is done Still curious to know the reason, especially as you don't live in the uk clocker

Is it really "brave" admitting to this in an anonymous online forum using an alt account from a previously deleted username?

	Quote:	Clocker
	But I am not the one who has a problem with my vote. If you believe it was illegal, prove that my vote was illegal. I did vote and have no reason to tell you I did if I didn't. If you read the previous posts you will see that I agreed partially with BelgianMum insofar as I said that perhaps it was morally wrong as she pointed out.

On the facts given, your registration on the UK electoral was illegal as you are only entitled for 15 years after leaving the UK.

The US imprisons people for that, happily for you the UK is rather more lenient.

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	You can register as an overseas voter for up to 15 years after leaving the UK

https://www.gov.uk/voting-when-abroad

[bigblue2]

	Quote:	bowlie
	So next will be a no confidence motion. It appears the speaker would not object. If just a handful of Conservative MP’s support, or even abstain, we will have an election. So now, despite my non-UK nationality, how do I register to vote.

and if we have an election we'd still get a no deal brexit due to the ticking clock, its a huge gamble for boris, all the brexiters would have to vote for him to make damn sure it happened, and that would more or less guarantee him a big majority in the house.

[Clocker]

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	electoral fraud is probably one of those crimes Switzerland would deport you back to the UK for.

I did not commit electoral fraud, I fulfilled the legal requirements to vote and I can't be deported from Switzerland thank you very much.

	Quote:	Clocker
	I did not commit electoral fraud, I fulfilled the legal requirements to vote and I can't be deported from Switzerland thank you very much.

By your own admission you didn't. You've been out of the UK for more than 15 years.

[bigblue2]

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	Is it really "brave" admitting to this in an anonymous online forum using an alt account from a previously deleted username?

well yes, he could just go off on one like previous people have, and get banned / deleted, but that doesn't help anyone understand the other sides point of view

[bowlie]

	Quote:	bigblue2
	and if we have an election we'd still get a no deal brexit due to the ticking clock, its a huge gamble for boris, all the brexiters would have to vote for him to make damn sure it happened, and that would more or less guarantee him a big majority in the house.

What stops the EU from unilaterally extending the date, by the same number of days, to allow the new Parliament, to act.

[marton]

	Quote:	bigblue2
	and if we have an election we'd still get a no deal brexit due to the ticking clock, its a huge gamble for boris, all the brexiters would have to vote for him to make damn sure it happened, and that would more or less guarantee him a big majority in the house.

Depends on two things, firstly how many brexiters are left and secondly how many of them are dumb enough to vote for Farage.

	Quote:	Clocker
	I did not commit electoral fraud, I fulfilled the legal requirements to vote and I can't be deported from Switzerland thank you very much.

So you are a Swiss citizen who was in the UK studying, not paying into the system, and taking advantage of the state's generosity who has now admitted to illegally voting in a referendum that has zero influence on your life.

#Hero

[Clocker]

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	By your own admission you didn't. You've been out of the UK for more than 15 years.

I have since, yes.

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	So you are a Swiss citizen who was in the UK studying, not paying into the system, and taking advantage of the state's generosity who has now admitted to illegally voting in a referendum that has zero influence on your life.

Wrong. Totally wrong and entire presumption. Tired of this. Where do I unsubscribe?!

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	So you are a Swiss citizen who was in the UK studying, not paying into the system, and taking advantage of the state's generosity who has now admitted to illegally voting in a referendum that has zero influence on your life. #Hero

Ironically, isn't that part of the Brexit mantra about kicking out people who are taking the piss and "doing over the system".

Present company excepted, obvs...

So, at the risk of repeating myself, what are the pros of Brexit? Anyone?

[bigblue2]

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	So, at the risk of repeating myself, what are the pros of Brexit? Anyone?

cheap holidays to the uk?