The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH - Page 1082

StirB · #**21621** 28.08.2019, 18:30

	Quote:	Clocker
	I have since, yes. Wrong. Totally wrong and entire presumption. Tired of this.

Why don't you explain your process to us all then? Are you being vague on every single question asked for some reason?

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

RufusB · #**21622** 28.08.2019, 18:30

	Quote:	bigblue2
	cheap holidays to the uk?

And?

Sandgrounder · #**21623** 28.08.2019, 18:31

	Quote:	RufusB
	So, at the risk of repeating myself, what are the pros of Brexit? Anyone?

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/Inconseque...all-mobile.mp4

marton · #**21624** 28.08.2019, 18:32

	Quote:	RufusB
	So, at the risk of repeating myself, what are the pros of Brexit?

there is a bus load of them

bigblue2 · #**21625** 28.08.2019, 18:35

	Quote:	RufusB
	And?

nice cheap houses for anyone choosing to retire there, especially if they have a swiss pension and a few CHF in their pocket.

May need to invest in some razor wire and a humvee though

bowlie · #**21626** 28.08.2019, 18:36

	Quote:
	So, at the risk of repeating myself, what are the pros of Brexit?

Taking back control? Oh wait ...

3Wishes · #**21627** 28.08.2019, 18:36

Ladies and gents, this is getting a bit much. Whatever Clocker has or hasn't done in terms of voting, this thread is not about one EF user.

Brexit is far bigger than one person and her vote, regardless of whether it was leave or remain or even legally cast.

Enough with the back-and-forth personal comments. Please, and thank you.

Belgianmum · #**21628** 28.08.2019, 18:37

	Quote:	Clocker
	How many more times? I was NOT on the electoral roll. You had to have been on an electoral roll in the UK within the 15 years preceding the vote. I contacted that municipality to be able to exercise my right to vote as per the law and they immediately sent me the necessary documents to my address in Switzerland.

So you basically exploited the fact that you weren’t removed from the electoral roll when you actually ceased to be a U.K. resident and just squeaked in under the 15 year rule.

As I said earlier, morally reprehensible.

	Quote:	Clocker
	Yes. You had to still have been on an electoral roll to claim a vote. I was.

	Quote:	Clocker
	How many more times? I was NOT on the electoral roll. You had to have been on an electoral roll in the UK within the 15 years preceding the vote. I contacted that municipality to be able to exercise my right to vote as per the law and they immediately sent me the necessary documents to my address in Switzerland.

These two posts seem to be contradictory.

bigblue2 · #**21629** 28.08.2019, 18:39

	Quote:	3Wishes
	Brexit is far bigger than one person

Boris disagrees

Sandgrounder · #**21630** 28.08.2019, 18:42

	Quote:	3Wishes
	Ladies and gents, this is getting a bit much. Whatever Clocker has or hasn't done in terms of voting, this thread is not about one EF user. Brexit is far bigger than one person and her vote, regardless of whether it was leave or remain or even legally cast. Enough with the back-and-forth personal comments. Please, and thank you.

Yep, to be fair, I don't think it's an isolated case. Seems there was a lot of it about - people receiving multiple ballot papers or none at all.

Badly organised shit-show from beginning to end...

StirB · #**21631** 28.08.2019, 18:43

	Quote:	3Wishes
	Ladies and gents, this is getting a bit much. Whatever Clocker has or hasn't done in terms of voting, this thread is not about one EF user. Brexit is far bigger than one person and her vote, regardless of whether it was leave or remain or even legally cast. Enough with the back-and-forth personal comments. Please, and thank you.

Agree with leaving any personal attacks out (although I don't believe calling someone's actions reprehensible is a personal attack).

People potentially voting illegally is quite a big story however, especially when they often quote democratic process means we should leave the EU as that's what the people voted.

Clocker · #**21632** 28.08.2019, 19:01

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	These two posts seem to be contradictory.

Not at all, it's just that in the first post the 15 years part wasn't mentioned.

You had to have been on an electoral roll in the UK within the 15 years preceding the vote (or perhaps the registration period for the vote). I was. If I hadn't have been then surely they would not have sent me the documents?!

If they sent out documents to people who weren't even on their electoral roll within the preceding 15 years or even ever, then I would wholly agree with you that that indeed would have been a shambles and one could say a true opening of the flood gates to let just about anyone vote!

Belgianmum · #**21633** 28.08.2019, 19:08

	Quote:	Clocker
	Not at all, it's just that in the first post the 15 years part wasn't mentioned. You had to have been on an electoral roll in the UK within the 15 years preceding the vote (or perhaps the registration period for the vote). I was. If I hadn't have been then surely they would not have sent me the documents?! If they sent out documents to people who weren't even on their electoral roll within the preceding 15 years or even ever, then I would wholly agree with you that that indeed would have been a shambles and one could say a true opening of the flood gates to let just about anyone vote!

You were being deliberately vague in your first post, if you given the full information in the first place you could have saved yourself a whole load of grief.

	Quote:	Clocker
	We had discussed the exact same issue before (I don't know if it was on this very thread) and you were already aware of the circumstances of my vote. I wasn't being deliberately vague at all and you know it.

Yes we have discussed it before and you were equally as vague that time too.
If you had explained the exact timelines then we wouldn’t have had to ask again.

Whether what you did was right or not is a different matter entirely but in the grand scheme of things one vote is neither here nor there.

Clocker · #**21634** 28.08.2019, 19:09

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	You were being deliberately vague in your first post, if you given the full information in the first place you could have saved yourself a whole load of grief.

We had discussed the exact same issue before (I don't know if it was on this very thread) and you were already aware of the circumstances of my vote. I wasn't being deliberately vague at all and you know it.

#**21635** 28.08.2019, 19:21

	Quote:	marton
	there is a bus load of them

Here is a wonderful list of why the EU and their rules were so bad for the UK.. the blame and nonsense have been going on for years.

Enjoy. I have a few favourites: Grimsby, fishy smell.. and the end of prawn cocktail crisps.. and what about the poor barmaids?

bowlie · #**21636** 28.08.2019, 19:30

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Here is a wonderful list of why the EU and their rules were so bad for the UK.. the blame and nonsense has been going on for years. Enjoy. I have a few favourites: Grimsby, fishy smell.. and the end of prawn cocktail crisps.. and what about the poor barmaids?

Poor barmaids? They are not so poor if they have big tips.

Blueangel · #**21637** 28.08.2019, 19:58

	Quote:	Clocker
	I did not commit electoral fraud, I fulfilled the legal requirements to vote and I can't be deported from Switzerland thank you very much.

For the sake of absolute clarity...

On 23 June 2016, had you been living outside of the UK for 15yrs or more? Yes or no?

	Quote:	RufusB
	Pick any UK address you ever lived in and contact that council for a form. Hope the person who answers your call is new.

I tried that. It must be the last address you were registered at hence my vote is still registered in Windsor and I wasn't allowed to transfer it back to my hometown of 48yrs.

As for the accuracy of electoral rolls, anmd I know it's bad form to quote yourself...but at least I was totally honest and didn't use the second ballot paper. https://www.englishforum.ch/internat...ml#post3035950

bowlie · #**21638** 28.08.2019, 20:04

Can we get back on topic please?

So what happens next? Is a no Confidence motion possible,or likely? What is the likelihood of it passing?

Blueangel · #**21639** 28.08.2019, 20:13

Crikey! Even the Telegraph aren't happy with this...

	Quote:
	Boris Johnson's unprecedented decision is indeed a threat to our democracy The government’s proposal to prorogue parliament for approaching five weeks until October 14 disregards the basic principles of our constitutional system. That should concern us all, whatever our view of Brexit.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...eat-democracy/

amogles · #**21640** 28.08.2019, 20:16

	Quote:	bowlie
	Can we get back on topic please? So what happens next? Is a no Confidence motion possible,or likely? What is the likelihood of it passing?

The motion is highly likely. BJ's opponents are going to throw everything they've got at this.

Will it pass? This is a question of how good BJ is at tactizing and winning over the fence setters.

Any MP's with any special (unrelated) demands, your hour has come.