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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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For the sake of absolute clarity...
On 23 June 2016, had you been living outside of the UK for 15yrs or more? Yes or no?
Yes. In the time immediately preceding that date I had not been residing in the UK for 15 years, 8 months, 3 weeks.

I believe I was however on the electoral roll at my last UK address until approximately 2003 and this is exactly why I contacted the local authority there. Because if you were still on an electoral roll somewhere in the UK within the preceding 15 years, you were entitled to register to vote. This is what I was told in early 2016 and this is what I did.

My application to vote was accepted by that municipality because I was only taken off their electoral roll 13 years prior to my application. This is how I was able to vote.
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Old 28.08.2019, 20:22
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The only PM since Mrs T who did what they said the would
I'm not sure I would draw that comparison as she also said:

"I love argument. I love debate. I don't expect anyone just to sit there and agree with me - that's not their job." 1980
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-10377842
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Old 28.08.2019, 20:25
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Crikey! Even the Telegraph aren't happy with this...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...eat-democracy/
Not all at the Telegraph are off their Brexit heads. I quite like Peter Foster, Telegraph's Europe Editor.
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Old 28.08.2019, 20:27
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really I don't mind how anyone voted, really, I don't. Doesn't affect me either way as we've no plans to go back and as soon as the leave vote won I got my Irish passport
Yep and the way things are going you soon even get to vote for the President Of Ireland.....
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Old 28.08.2019, 21:07
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Yes. In the time immediately preceding that date I had not been residing in the UK for 15 years, 8 months, 3 weeks.
Whilst I thank you for your honesty in clarifying, I retract it for your dishonesty in committing electoral fraud, which is a criminal offence under UK law.

Fraudulent application for a postal vote: section 40
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/election-offences

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So what happens next? Is a no Confidence motion possible,or likely? What is the likelihood of it passing?
I'll hazard a guess that nobody really knows, but what I do know is this:

Johnson framed the proroguing as being required to allow time for Education and Health Care Reforms not for Brexit negotiations, etc.

The immediate stumbling blocks to this are detailed here:

https://twitter.com/joannaccherry/st...97130834239488

https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/st...98238247751681

https://www.parliament.uk/business/n...ormation-bill/

That's just three ways that proroguing could be suspended and it will be mainly up to the Court of Sessions to decide. What politicians do is another matter altogether, but this is predominantly a matter of law, constitutional and otherwise. The thing to remember here is that the PM hasn't used Brexit as his reasoning, and the legal reponses will largely be structured around the current legislation r.e. The Northern Ireland Bill and constitutional law.

All in all, this is just more time wasting by the PM.
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Old 28.08.2019, 21:13
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Interesting map on the petition "Do not prorogue Parliament":

https://petitionmap.unboxedconsultin...etition=269157
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My take on BoJo‘s parliamentary actions is that this for the EU‘s benefit - to show that he really means business.

Over the last 3 years the UK Has been been obsessed and distracted with in-fighting and worrying and not serious negotiations the EU. It‘s a massive gamble, but it could see a move from Brussels - or wherever the EU is headquartered at the moment...
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Old 28.08.2019, 21:17
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Interesting map on the petition "Do not prorogue Parliament":

https://petitionmap.unboxedconsultin...etition=269157
I've been fascinated with that too. It's markedly different to the Revoke Article 50 result in many ways, and even though kids aren't back at Uni yet, the uni cities are still voting strong.
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Whilst I thank you for your honesty in clarifying, I retract it for your dishonesty in committing electoral fraud
Hardly fraud if I applied for it under the guidelines which were given. Utilizing loopholes is not illegal.

Thank you nevertheless for trying to clarify, I'm sure reogner will be along in a moment to thank you as well, like on several other posts on this thread where he has no clue but tries to show support. Oh wait, he already has! Utterly pathetic way of carrying on (his not yours).
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My take on BoJo‘s parliamentary actions is that this for the EU‘s benefit - to show that he really means business.

Over the last 3 years the UK Has been been obsessed and distracted with in-fighting and worrying and not serious negotiations the EU. It‘s a massive gamble, but it could see a move from Brussels - or wherever the EU is headquartered at the moment...
Other than Ireland, what concessions would even appeal to the Conservatives?

They still don’t know what they want, just what they don’t want.

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Old 28.08.2019, 21:27
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Hardly fraud if I applied for it under the guidelines which were given. Utilizing loopholes is not illegal.
In the eyes of the law, you knowingly applied for a postal vote in full knowledge that you were not eligible owing to the length of time that you had lived outside of the UK. This thread is testament to that, hence, you committed fraud and broke the law. End of!
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In the eyes of the law, you knowingly applied for a postal vote in full knowledge that you were not eligible owing to the length of time that you had lived outside of the UK. This thread is testament to that, hence, you committed fraud and broke the law. End of!
No, I don't see it that way. As I recall the guidelines and/or registration procedure didn't specify that. It was sufficient to have been on the electoral roll.

We will have to agree to disagree on the technicality.
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C’mon you guys. Enough is enough. STOP IT!

Thank you.
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Thank you nevertheless for trying to clarify, I'm sure reogner will be along in a moment to thank you as well, like on several other posts on this thread where he has no clue but tries to show support. Oh wait, he already has! Utterly pathetic way of carrying on (his not yours).
Aren´t you doing the same?



And yes, better get back on track here.
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Aren´t you doing the same?
No, not at all!
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Nicola Sturgeon is calling it a dictatorship. Ruth Davidson is on the verge of quitting.

BoJo said it was do or die and he clearly wasn't kidding. Balls to the wall time I guess. Let's see if a vote of No Confidence is called.
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How's that work? Who calls it? Who gets to vote? Did May face a vote of no confidence and survive?

This thread is too long to keep up.
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Even if they pull of the No Confidence it should be to late to effect Brexit. They'll just announce elections in November.
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How's that work? Who calls it? Who gets to vote? Did May face a vote of no confidence and survive?

This thread is too long to keep up.
A motion is brought up in parliament and after debating about it the house gets to vote about it. If it passes the government must resign or call elections.

May survived such vote in January.

I tbh find this as for tactical moves a brilliant master move from Boris.
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