The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

Yes, I think Boris is desperate to throw the DUP under the bus and have a border down the Irish sea, get May's deal over the line and declare victory.

But, a week is a long time in politics.. and hell doesn't that ring true now more than ever?

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Castro
	Putting my disdain of Johnson to one side, I think he is playing a high stakes game to get parliament to support the Withdrawal Agreement with some minor amendments. Ruth Davidson actually called it right in her resignation speech. He needs a Queen's Speech to reset parliament to bring a thrice defeated bill back to them, because the alternative 'No Deal' precipice will surely focus minds on backing this compromise.

Sorry Castro, but that doesn't make sense to me.

Then why did the ERG and the likes, including the current PM, vote against the deal the first 2 times if they intend to submit it to a vote for a 4th time? They could have cut all this crap out and rallied behind it right from the off. If they had, I reckon it would have been over the line by the third vote.

Hope Denmark is treating you well.

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Then why did the ERG and the likes, including the current PM, vote against the deal the first 2 times if they intend to submit it to a vote for a 4th time?

As my old account prof, used to say hanging concentrates the mind... they now have all the responsibility and all the facts.... there is a very big difference between sitting on the sidelines and being on the playing field...

De Valera came to power in Ireland in 1932, the first republican minded Taoiseach (Prime Minister). He had spent 10 criticising the government and in particular the governments dealings with the UK. After having seen all the files and diplomatic documents he recorded comment was: my God they did brilliantly, but we can't ever admit it.

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	This thread is metter than Brexit !! 1090 pages, each with an average of 20 posts means a total of.....wait for it about 21'800 posts.......

Psssst.... Thanks for the detailed calculation, but did you know that every post in every thread is numbered? It's right there on the upper right of the post. Your post was in fact exactly # 21,800.

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	OMG, that's epic!

But sadly completely irrelevant as an allegory (as well as incorrect in football)

[Clocker]

£3 million fund to help UK nationals with EU forms

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49515487

Shocking the amount of nonsense being written by ministers.

This drivel in particularly will cause a significant amount of head hurt. Brexit Secretary Steve Barclay:

https://twitter.com/SteveBarclay/sta...65868891725825

[bowlie]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Shocking the amount of nonsense being written by ministers. This drivel in particularly will cause a significant amount of head hurt. Brexit Secretary Steve Barclay: https://twitter.com/SteveBarclay/sta...65868891725825

Swisstree, I don’t Twitter and your links don’t get me anywhere. Can you give a little context?

	Quote:	bowlie
	Swisstree, I don’t Twitter and your links don’t get me anywhere. Can you give a little context?

Yes, of course, Bowlie.

Steve Barclay tweeted: The car industry’s ‘just in time’ supply chains rely on fluid cross-Channel trade routes. >1,100 trucks filled with car parts cross seamlessly from EU into UK each day. We need to start talks now on how we make sure this flow continues if we leave without a deal.

Barclay of course knows this is nonsense - very little preparation and effort gone into getting ports ready means this isn't going to happen. An insult to car manufacturers, just more unicorn drivel. It's akin to Grayling's bought and paid for fleet of invisible ships..

I do not have a Twitter account either.. I should do though as I am always in there. But the link should just take you straight through to the twitter page, same as any other link. Sorry the link doesn't work for you.

[Mikers]

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	But sadly completely irrelevant as an allegory (as well as incorrect in football)

It was written as a piece of humor which also maps to the current situation. Most people got it, agreed and found it funny in with all those serious posts.

If you don’t want to join in, in having a break from the arguing at least have the decency to not try and logically deconstruct it as if it was serious.

And it does work as an allegory, football injuries do occur from non commital in tackles and your obvious dearth of intelligence only further embarrasses you as your forum name accurately suggests.

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	Mikers
	It was written as a piece of humor which also maps to the current situation. Most people got it, agreed and found it funny in with all those serious posts. If you don’t want to join in, in having a break from the arguing at least have the decency to not try and logically deconstruct it as if it was serious. And it does work as an allegory, football injuries do occur from non commital in tackles and your obvious dearth of intelligence only further embarrasses you as your forum name accurately suggests.

He'll probably groan your post (and mine too)

[greenmount]

	Quote:	k_and_e
	He'll probably groan your post (and mine too)

And rightly so.

Btw, do you actually care?

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	greenmount
	And rightly so. Btw, do you actually care?

No, but i find it funny how some posters react if they don't get a joke.

	Quote:	k_and_e
	No, but i find it funny how some posters react if they don't get a joke.

Although "groan-worthy jokes" are a thing, don't you know..?

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	clocker
	£3 million fund to help UK nationals with EU forms

So that's an estimated £2.30 each. Substatially less than a Boots or Tesco Meal Deal. Whoopadee!

This 'Protect & Survive Brexit' piece has got me wondering how long it is since I last cold, tinned new potatoes. Used to love them wehn I was a kid.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...no-deal-brexit

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	Psssst.... Thanks for the detailed calculation, but did you know that every post in every thread is numbered? It's right there on the upper right of the post. Your post was in fact exactly # 21,800.

I did indeed and we have 36 more now

[greenmount]

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	Although "groan-worthy jokes" are a thing, don't you know..?

Haha, nah...apart from really sexist or racist jokes I personally don't find any attempt to humour particularly worth groaning. Maybe eyes rolling. But I think that, in general, thinly veiled insults under the guise of jokes do irritate a lot of otherwise easy-going people.

	Quote:	Mikers
	And it does work as an allegory, football injuries do occur from non commital in tackles and your obvious dearth of intelligence only further embarrasses you as your forum name accurately suggests.

You might argue it works as an analogy, but certainly not as an allegory. Probably best to get that right before abusing people for a lack of intelligence on here, play nice.

Is there any data on hesitancy causing injury, I genuinely wonder. It is certainly something we are always taught as kids playing footy, but I wonder how much truth there is to it. Anecdotally, any serious injury I've had has been from full committal to a tackle.

[John William]

Well if the British government are willing to pay out £3 million pounds to help British nationals
fill in EU member state residence forms.

BBC News - British government announce £3 million pound fund to help UK nationals with EU forms

Lets start a Petition for British Expats suffering Brexit neurosis, as a result of all the
uncertainty over what Brexit will really mean for British Expats living in their adopted
EU country. As they say HM treasury are swimming in surplus cash for good causes.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	John William
	Well if the British government are willing to pay out £3 million pounds to help British nationals fill in EU member state residence forms.

The irony is... they're spending £100million on the 'Get Ready' advertising campaign and buying t-shits and mugs with the slogan. Hmmm...