The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[k_and_e]

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	Did you read all of the article?

no. I assume that there is no need because all delay articles are basically the same

[Blueangel]

By Wednesday, if vote planned for Wednesday goes against the government and this Bill is passed...

https://twitter.com/hilarybennmp/sta...60598650621953

...it's looking like we'll be having GE on Monday 14 October. Oh deep joy!

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...rexit-11800896

[Blueangel]

More deep joy from the UK...

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	Michael Gove pulls plans to reveal ‘watered down’ Yellowhammer Ministers say no-deal Brexit contingencies would still alarm UK public

https://www.ft.com/content/c95b92ea-...4-b5ded7a7fe3f

Eff this for a game of soldiers! I'm off to watch videos of puppies and kittens

[nickatbasel]

Hmm..would I rather a trained doctor or a muppet like Fleas Maggot in-between bitty from Nanny in the back of the Bently work out healthcare contingency planning?

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	Which asks the obvious question, why on earth are they hiring people like that to do the yellowhammer stuff ? Its kind of like asking an arsonist to write your fire regulations.

	Quote:	Mikers
	Which asks the obvious question, why on earth are they hiring people like that to do the yellowhammer stuff ? Its kind of like asking an arsonist to write your fire regulations.

Or why ask someone who has hacked government systems to help them improve cyber security. Or ask someone who is a top level fraudster to help with bank security.

Take 3 hours off, get a nice bottle of brandy and enjoy Catch Me If You Can and you'll understand why your example isn't as silly as you are trying to make out.

[John William]

For those Expats who regularly subscribe to The British Medical Journal ( The BMJ ) there was an
interesting analysis on the health risks of a 'No Deal Brexit' in last weeks edition of
The British Medical Journal ( The BMJ )


The British Medical Journal - Assessing the health effects of a 'no deal' Brexit

[Blueangel]

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	EU officials say the 'only fruitful conclusion' of recent contacts has been arranging further meetings. 'We ask ourselves are we being played for time or is this going to be serious at some point? It suits UK internal politics to pretend there’s a process going on in Brussels.'

https://twitter.com/nick_gutteridge/...87512778735616

Johnson caught with his pants on fire again?

[Blueangel]

Of the 22 reported possible Tory rebels yesterday, 14 have confirmed they will vote against the government today. They are:

David Gauke, Rory Stewart, Justine Greening, Dominic Grieve, Oliver Letwin, Philip Hammond, Antoinette Sandbach, Alistair Burt, Richard Harrington, Guto Bebb, Caroline Noakes, Margot James, Sam Gyimah, Nicholas Soames.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham...ory-mps-brexit

Justine Greening has also stated that she will not stand as a Conservative candidate at the next election, and hasaccused the Conservative Party of "becoming the Brexit Party".
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b011080453bd9d

[bigblue2]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Of the 22 reported possible Tory rebels yesterday, 14 have confirmed they will vote against the government today. They are: David Gauke, Rory Stewart, Justine Greening, Dominic Grieve, Oliver Letwin, Philip Hammond, Antoinette Sandbach, Alistair Burt, Richard Harrington, Guto Bebb, Caroline Noakes, Margot James, Sam Gyimah, Nicholas Soames. https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham...ory-mps-brexit Justine Greening has also stated that she will not stand as a Conservative candidate at the next election, and hasaccused the Conservative Party of "becoming the Brexit Party". https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b011080453bd9d

now if only tory mp's actually did what they say where going to do,

sorry, not just tory, any mp

I wonder what the EU thinks of this and if any extension would be granted after this whole thing. Again they are all just fighting over each other and any actual progress on talks is again on hold.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Justine Greening has also stated that she will not stand as a Conservative candidate at the next election, and hasaccused the Conservative Party of "becoming the Brexit Party". https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b011080453bd9d

BoJo has effectively made Farage redundant because of this, and has cut back the threat he might mount in a GE. That's the vulnerability you have when you are a one-trick party.

[Blueangel]

For Swisstree, and anyone else who's interested, this is an excerpt of the Ken Clarke interview from last week that I was telling you about.

https://twitter.com/jamesmelville/st...21386269868034

[Mikers]

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	Or why ask someone who has hacked government systems to help them improve cyber security. Or ask someone who is a top level fraudster to help with bank security. Take 3 hours off, get a nice bottle of brandy and enjoy Catch Me If You Can and you'll understand why your example isn't as silly as you are trying to make out.

Yes I see now, it’s not silly at all and it was stupid to say it was.

	Quote:	Mikers
	Yes I see now, it’s not silly at all and it was stupid to say it was.

Don't beat yourself up, everyone makes mistakes.

Nigel Farage being called out on the no-deal lies.

https://twitter.com/PoliticsPunked/s...58847550889985

[bigblue2]

does it really matter now?

Boris is either a poker playing genius or totally bat shit crazy, I suspect the former, he's maneuvered everyone into running around like headless chickens, whatever they do now he'll win, court actions, confidence votes, general election, it really doesn't matter, the clock is ticking and will run out before any of that can happen.

	Quote:	bigblue2
	does it really matter now? Boris is either a poker playing genius or totally bat shit crazy, I suspect the former, he's maneuvered everyone into running around like headless chickens, whatever they do now he'll win, court actions, confidence votes, general election, it really doesn't matter, the clock is ticking and will run out before any of that can happen.

Yes it matters. It all matters. But he's playing chicken and he's really ing good at it. He's prepared to deal with a lot of collateral damage I think, whereas the others players are not.

If only Corbyn would put his party and country before his own bloody quest for power and let Emily Thornberry lead. She'd have a good shot in a GE.

[Blueangel]

Just done the 'Get Ready for Brexit' questions here https://www.gov.uk/get-ready-brexit-check

Apparently, if the UK leaves without a deal, British passports will need to be valid for a minimum of 6mths to allow you to travel within the EU. Mine's due to be renewed in October 2020 so will now need to get it renewed in March to allow travel from April onwards.

[Reb77Br]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Just done the 'Get Ready for Brexit' questions here https://www.gov.uk/get-ready-brexit-check Apparently, if the UK leaves without a deal, British passports will need to be valid for a minimum of 6mths to allow you to travel within the EU. Mine's due to be renewed in October 2020 so will now need to get it renewed in March to allow travel from April onwards.

I can see a lot of people getting caught out by that, triggering displays of tiredness and frustration at airports.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Just done the 'Get Ready for Brexit' questions here https://www.gov.uk/get-ready-brexit-check Apparently, if the UK leaves without a deal, British passports will need to be valid for a minimum of 6mths to allow you to travel within the EU. Mine's due to be renewed in October 2020 so will now need to get it renewed in March to allow travel from April onwards.

Wasn't there a 6month thing anyway? Or was that for travel to the US?