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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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From what I understand, we'd probably keep her as Head of State in order to appease the Rangers lot.
It would also make it much easier for the legal eagles to draft the new Scottish constitution - follow the long tradition of look at the other jurisdiction and use find and replace in MS Word:

Queen <=> President
House Of Lords <=> Seanad
Prime Minister <=> Taoiseach

No need need to do a replace on Supreme Court any more, since the Law Lords have been renamed.

And the final step, if you are in the UK, just delete all of the left hand pages as the contain the Gaelic text of the Irish law.

Job done.

Just as well there is no copyright on this stuff or every legal draftsman drafting for a Parliament of Westminster style democracy would have serious challenges
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Old 11.09.2019, 13:54
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What is the proper pronunciation of Taoiseach? Is it "tea-shock", "tay-shock" or "tiss-shock" as I often hear?
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What is the proper pronunciation of Taoiseach? Is it "tea-shock", "tay-shock" or "tiss-shock" as I often hear?
Depends on what part of the country you're from

Tea-shock is grand.
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Tea-shock is grand.
Tea shock is what you get when you let someone else make you a brew, and you find they momentarily waft a tea-bag over a cup of hot, milky water.

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Talking of which "Three judges at Scotland's highest court of appeal have ruled that the UK government's decision to shut down Parliament is unlawful, "

Just when you thought Brexit could not get more screwed up

Dear Almighty President Trump,


Would you please help Europe out and adopt the UK so that it becomes a new state of the United States.
This will make your country even greater and you will definitely become the GoaT.


Europe will forever be grateful and we promise to buy a lot of American stuff.


Regards
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Tea shock is what you get when you let someone else make you a brew, and you find they momentarily waft a tea-bag over a cup of hot, milky water.

The milk in first?? I rather have Brexit.

My Mother lives in the back arse of County Tipperary and her pronunciation of Taoiseach is very different to the rest of the country.

Ha, she hated C. J. Haughy in the 70s/80s.. so she just called him tut.. and sometimes tut-tut.
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from what i understand, we'd probably keep her as head of state in order to appease the rangers lot.
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Jobs cull at Axminster Carpets as giant which supplies Wetherspoons and Buckingham Palace blames Brexit

"Axminster Carpets says a "sustained uncertainty relating to Brexit" has led a lack of consumer-spending confidence"

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Axminster is in East Devon, which voted 54.1% Leave.
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As I said a few days ago, it is not over until the Supreme Court rules on it.

So if the Supreme Court upholds the decision they will have basically have found that Boris has lied to the Queen on top of everything else.
Always a possibility that the Supreme Court will decide not to rule; an unanimous decision by the Scottish Court is not a strong reason for a further review? They are not a rubber stamp, they only choose to handle a small number of the appeals received.
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What is the proper pronunciation of Taoiseach? Is it "tea-shock", "tay-shock" or "tiss-shock" as I often hear?
There are at least seven main Irish dialects... all three will work, so take your pick...

And the Tánaiste is the deputy prime minister. And then for some unknown reason we switch to English when referring to the president, rather than being consistent and using the term Uachtaráin.
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Old 11.09.2019, 15:19
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Always a possibility that the Supreme Court will decide not to rule; an unanimous decision by the Scottish Court is not a strong reason for a further review? They are not a rubber stamp, they only choose to handle a small number of the appeals received.
The UK is not the US, the Supreme Court cannot refuse to hear a case referred to it and will rule on it, even if the ruling is just to throw the case out! The Scottish Court did not grant an order to reopen parliament because the case is referred to the Supreme Court.
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And the final step, if you are in the UK, just delete all of the left hand pages as the contain the Gaelic text of the Irish law.
Or fix the spelling and replace the odd word here and there and you have passable Scottish Gaelic.
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Not sure whether this has been mentioned already but ....
Judges in Scotland's highest court - The Court of Session rule Boris's government move to prorogue
( suspend ) Parliament as unlawful.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855

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This is why it is so important only to sign an exit agreement that is clear and unambiguous with clear wording, definitions and obligations, not some bollocks with a never ending clause subject to whatever interpretation you care to make and with it being dependent on one party only.
Better still would have been to have negotiated the deal with the EU before the vote. That way everybody would have known what deal vs. no-deal question is all about rather than the present situation where there is a deal on the table that nobody wants and that is probably not but maybe is open for renegotiation.
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Better still would have been to have negotiated the deal with the EU before the vote. That way everybody would have known what deal vs. no-deal question is all about rather than the present situation where there is a deal on the table that nobody wants and that is probably not but maybe is open for renegotiation.
I believe there is no *further* deal to be had with the EU, their position has been made crystal clear. The €39 billion hole in finances and loss of UK trade for certain export countries has already been factored into that decision. This is why Johnson is holed up in Downing St and not hammering doors in Brussels. Yes it will hurt, but it will hurt us a lot more than it will hurt them.

So what we have on the table is May's Withdrawal Agreement or No deal. Thinking the EU will cave at the 11th hour is like playing chicken in a Mini, heading towards a giant, steaming train.
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So what we have on the table is May's Withdrawal Agreement or No deal. Thinking the EU will cave at the 11th hour is like playing chicken in a Mini, heading towards a giant, steaming train.
People in the UK who think that the EU will cave at the 11th hour fail to appreciate that their position has changed from being a member to that of a third country. And while the member states are willing to bend over backwards to find a compromise among themselves they never break for a third country. If they did they’d be leaving themselves open to all kinds of problems in negotiating trade deals etc...
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Irish backstop is solved - Boris is going to build a bridge between Scotland and N Ireland...

However, a retired engineer wasted no time pissing on Boris' chips.

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‘Many long bridges have been built, but none across such a wide, deep and stormy stretch of water. For a great part of the 22 mile route the water is more than 1,000ft deep. It would require about 30 support towers at least 1,400ft high to carry the road deck across the deepest part and above the shipping channel. In total the bridge would require 54 towers, of heights never achieved anywhere in the world.

‘In addition, the trickiest section, Beaufort Dyke, was used for many years from 1946 to dump obsolete munitions. The Ministry of Defence estimates the total dumped at more than 1.5m tons. There are no maps of their locations.
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Irish backstop is solved - Boris is going to build a bridge between Scotland and N Ireland...
Even if it worked, such an undertaking would probably take much longer than a decade. No good if you need a very quick solution.

Looks like certain pleas have been heard and the Don has come to the rescue.
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Even if it worked, such an undertaking would probably take much longer than a decade. No good if you need a very quick solution.
MASSIVE cannon to launch goods from Bangor, into a humongous net in Stranraer.

Pigeon carriers for small stuff.

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