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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union
|    | 49 | 23.11% |
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU
|    | 68 | 32.08% |
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK
|    | 22 | 10.38% |
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing
|    | 23 | 10.85% |
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us
|    | 17 | 8.02% |
I don't really care
|    | 33 | 15.57% |  | | | 
20.09.2019, 15:56
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21.09.2019, 13:00
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Thsi story broke online last night and made for a very interesting 'Press Preview' on Sky News.
In a near repeat of the immediate aftermath of Cameron's resignation, with the Tory party in disarray, a tiny group in the Labour Party have decided that rather than optimise their position, they will again shoot themselves in the foot. | Quote: |  | | | Momentum founder Jon Lansman put forward a motion which would get rid of the deputy leader role, removing Tom Watson. | | | | | https://news.sky.com/story/tony-blai...erous-11815538 | This user would like to thank Blueangel for this useful post: | | 
21.09.2019, 13:54
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This is shocking and very sad.
Brexit is more important than his insulin. https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/statu...56247766900736 | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
21.09.2019, 14:21
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | No doubt the same people who reckon breaking up the United Kingdom is a great idea to get out
of the EU ( which has so far has shown no signs of other countries like the UK leaving the EU )
so that little Englanders can have Brexit just for themselves.
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21.09.2019, 14:48
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | No doubt the same people who reckon breaking up the United Kingdom is a great idea to get out
of the EU ( which has so far has shown no signs of other countries like the UK leaving the EU )
so that little Englanders can have Brexit just for themselves. | | | | | What people have missed is that the Brits have had a democracy for a very long time, something they value & don't wish to give up their sovereignty to the EU. EU countries such as Spain & Portugal have only had democracy since the late 1970's, Czechia since 1993. Germany was a Dictatorship in its recent past.
Hardly surprising that Brit's think differently. Switzerland has no intention of joining for the very same reason.
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21.09.2019, 14:52
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | What people have missed is that the Brits have had a democracy for a very long time, something they value & don't wish to give up their sovereignty to the EU. EU countries such as Spain & Portugal have only had democracy since the late 1970's, Czechia since 1993. Germany was a Dictatorship in its recent past.
Hardly surprising that Brit's think differently. Switzerland has no intention of joining for the very same reason. | | | | | Which when you think of it explains Brexiteers in a nutshell, namely they prefer to hark on and on and
on about the past.
Whereas the rest of Europe looks forward to the future.
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21.09.2019, 14:57
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The Brexit Party: the party for which opposition to the EU is more important than the human rights of British citizens.
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21.09.2019, 15:17
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Which when you think of it explains Brexiteers in a nutshell, namely they prefer to hark on and on and
on about the past.
Whereas the rest of Europe looks forward to the future. | | | | | Plenty of Brits died fighting, giving us the freedom of choice we have today. It could have turned out very differently. My generation are very grateful for those who gave their lives.
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21.09.2019, 16:16
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Plenty of Brits died fighting, giving us the freedom of choice we have today. It could have turned out very differently. My generation are very grateful for those who gave their lives. | | | | | Not belittling those sacrifices of the past but hey look guys were already almost 20 years into the
21st Century, time to consign WW2 to history as its high time we moved on !!
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21.09.2019, 17:50
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Not belittling those sacrifices of the past but hey look guys were already almost 20 years into the
21st Century, time to consign WW2 to history as its high time we moved on !! | | | | | European countries are full of far-right wing political parties and anti-Semitism is rearing it's ugly head again.
But you're suggesting we forget about what happened last time?
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21.09.2019, 18:44
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21.09.2019, 20:19
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | European countries are full of far-right wing political parties and anti-Semitism is rearing it's ugly head again.
But you're suggesting we forget about what happened last time? | | | | | No my moan is about the Brexiteers always harking about the past and how they would love to relive it.
Particularly as they always paint an image that Great Britain, alone and unaided apart from Vera Lynn,
liberated every single country in Europe from Nazi oppression.
Mind you, I vaguely remember reading somewhere that the U.S. and also the Soviet Union had a
hand in it somewhere.
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | ... & don't wish to give up their sovereignty to the EU. | | | | | Before 2015, many Brits didn't have a sodding clue what sovereignty is! | Quote: | |  | | | ...time to consign WW2 to history as its high time we moved on !! | | | | | No!
"Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it." | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | And I firmly believe there's a special place in hell reserved for them for that decision alone. | 
21.09.2019, 20:59
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | No my moan is about the Brexiteers always harking about the past and how they would love to relive it. | | | | | And what about the Brexiteers under the age of 75?
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21.09.2019, 21:29
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Plenty of Brits died fighting, giving us the freedom of choice we have today. It could have turned out very differently. My generation are very grateful for those who gave their lives. | | | | | It was the US who won the war
They were the ones who gave us the freedom of choice we have today.
Half of the D-Day troops were American, plus around 20,000 more were Canadian.
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21.09.2019, 21:33
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Before 2015, many Brits didn't have a sodding clue what sovereignty is! | | | | | They still do not have a sodding clue what sovereignty is!
If they did they would not be complaining about Parliament exercising their sovereign rights.
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21.09.2019, 21:35
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | It was the US who won the war 
They were the ones who gave us the freedom of choice we have today.
Half of the D-Day troops were American, plus around 20,000 more were Canadian. | | | | | Forgot to add the Soviet Union | 
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UK still does not have a clue how the EU works! | Quote: |  | | | It is claimed there is a British demand that the EU’s negotiating team treat a long-awaited cache of documents outlining the UK’s latest ideas as “Her Majesty’s government property”.
Whitehall told the European commission team that the three “confidential” papers should not be distributed to Brexit delegates representing the EU’s 27 other member states. | | | | | https://www.theguardian.com/politics...oposals-secretSource
They still do not understand that it is the EU 27 who will make the final decision. | 
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21.09.2019, 22:46
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | It was the Allies who won the war.  | | | | | Indeed. Anyone can step in once the fighting is almost done, help out at the end, and claim their crucial role in victory.
Also, "the US (and USSR) won the war" ignores the enormous sacrifice and successes of ANZAC troops in the Asia-Pacific region, especially, among others.
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