The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH - Page 1156

Blueangel · #**23101** 08.10.2019, 16:41

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	However they have money to smoke, drink & apparently many poor people drive cars. It's a choice how you spend your money. I foolishly assumed that people with cars could not be described as poor, but have been pulled up on that one more than once.

There are various degrees of being 'poor' and you have repeatedly shown that you have no concept of them.

curley · #**23102** 08.10.2019, 16:47

	Quote:	Ato
	That phone call was another effort at trying to make it look like he's making an effort. He was told to deal with the negotiators and stop calling heads of state, but it looks good to be doing something.

This can't make me stop wonderin about these negotiations all together:

Merkel is a head of state.
In my mind, Johnson should be talking to Tusk. Or maybe to Juncker ... yeah okay, Tusk might be the better choice.
Tusk should take things back and forth .... to the European Union, of which Merkel is the head of one part of

It's accepted for Johnson to talk directly to Merkel - and maybe, as an exception and please rather not - to Macron (both just heads of states/members of EU) but not to any other heads of states (also members of EU .... at least on paper

).

Try that here: "You can talk to Zurich and Bern town government but none of the others". LOL.

bigblue2 · #**23103** 08.10.2019, 17:03

	Quote:	Blueangel
	There are various degrees of being 'poor' and you have repeatedly shown that you have no concept of them.

if you have spare cash for cigarettes then you're not poor
if you have spare cash for booze then you're not poor
if you have spare cash for sky tv then you're not poor
if you have spare cash to run a car then you're not poor
if you have spare cash for to order take away every other day then you're not poor
if you have spare cash for the latest phones then you're not poor

the list goes on, always amusing when the bbc interview poor people

#**23104** 08.10.2019, 17:38

	Quote:	bigblue2
	if you have spare cash for cigarettes then you're not poor if you have spare cash for booze then you're not poor if you have spare cash for sky tv then you're not poor if you have spare cash to run a car then you're not poor if you have spare cash for to order take away every other day then you're not poor if you have spare cash for the latest phones then you're not poor the list goes on, always amusing when the bbc interview poor people

All true, but there is a small group who really is to poor to do any of those, mostly caused by having debts and those debts are not always their own fault.

And I'd say poor is relative, if for example one only has the money to do one or two of those things on the list, than you're still poor in my book, maybe not poor enough to not being able to buy an occasional piece of lamb (for my sake even only possible by making diff choices) but there are some people who really can't effort such.

Jim2007 · #**23105** 08.10.2019, 17:43

	Quote:	curley
	This can't make me stop wonderin about these negotiations all together: Merkel is a head of state. In my mind, Johnson should be talking to Tusk. Or maybe to Juncker ... yeah okay, Tusk might be the better choice. Tusk should take things back and forth .... to the European Union, of which Merkel is the head of one part of It's accepted for Johnson to talk directly to Merkel - and maybe, as an exception and please rather not - to Macron (both just heads of states/members of EU) but not to any other heads of states (also members of EU .... at least on paper ). Try that here: "You can talk to Zurich and Bern town government but none of the others". LOL.

Michel Barnier is the EU's appointed negotiator and Johnson was told last week that he needs to talk with Barnier to process this. But the UK continues to try to divide the 27 by going around Barnier, it has not worked nor will it going forward.

Blueangel · #**23106** 08.10.2019, 17:43

Just by the standards on your list, I was poor, but would have described myself as that. I viewed myself as skint and even long term skint (2008-2010), because I knew people who were genuinely poor by comparison. It's all relative.

lewton · #**23107** 08.10.2019, 17:48

	Quote:	FrankZappa
	Ironic that the UK fishing industry is likely to be one of the first victims of a no-deal Brexit: https://www.theguardian.com/business...no-deal-brexit

Lovely.

amogles · #**23108** 08.10.2019, 18:04

	Quote:	lewton
	Lovely.

There will be mass starvation on the streets of Britain, but fishermen will suffer becaue nobody buys fish?

Ato · #**23109** 08.10.2019, 18:06

	Quote:	amogles
	There will be mass starvation on the streets of Britain, but fishermen will suffer becaue nobody buys fish?

Why don't they eat cake?

amogles · #**23110** 08.10.2019, 18:09

	Quote:	Ato
	Why don't they eat cake?

Does popping into the chippie's count as fine dining these days?

Ato · #**23111** 08.10.2019, 18:14

	Quote:	amogles
	Does popping into the chippie's count as fine dining these days?

I'd love a cheeky sneaky chippy, however there appears to be a lack of them around here, and anyways, I'm afraid I spilled brandy on a my dinner jacket and it's not fit for a public appearance.

Chippies will be fairly miserable when theres no fish in them, but I hear there's going to be roaring trade in shepherds pies.

keyboardandmouse · #**23112** 08.10.2019, 18:16

	Quote:	Ato
	Why don't they eat cake?

ok so hold on a second. problem: people starving. Situation: Lorries stuck on motorway with lots of fish on them and cannot go abroad. Scientific fact: People can eat fish - Even lorry drivers.

Isnt there a simple solution here ?

bigblue2 · #**23113** 08.10.2019, 18:26

	Quote:	keyboardandmouse
	ok so hold on a second. problem: people starving. Situation: Lorries stuck on motorway with lots of fish on them and cannot go abroad. Scientific fact: People can eat fish - Even lorry drivers. Isnt there a simple solution here ?

eating food straight out of lorries, savage

marton · #**23114** 08.10.2019, 18:29

	Quote:	keyboardandmouse
	ok so hold on a second. problem: people starving. Situation: Lorries stuck on motorway with lots of fish on them and cannot go abroad. Scientific fact: People can eat fish - Even lorry drivers. Isnt there a simple solution here ?

But how can we make the appropriate sauces?

Ato · #**23115** 08.10.2019, 18:33

	Quote:	keyboardandmouse
	ok so hold on a second. problem: people starving. Situation: Lorries stuck on motorway with lots of fish on them and cannot go abroad. Scientific fact: People can eat fish - Even lorry drivers. Isnt there a simple solution here ?

I held on for a second and panicked in response. We can eat the lorry drivers, and with the yorkies saved we can feed the population.

Yes people can eat fish, problem being that people have grown unaccustomed to the fish from British waters. I don't think anybody is going to starve, there will just be a shortage of the products that people have grown used to over the last few generations. Medicines are more concerning.

#**23116** 08.10.2019, 18:34

	Quote:	marton
	But how can we make the appropriate sauces?

That would be the business model for the girl scouts, instead of selling cookies at the door they'll be selling sauces at parking lots to rioting crowds.

marton · #**23117** 08.10.2019, 18:36

	Quote:	Ato
	I'd love a cheeky sneaky chippy, however there appears to be a lack of them around here, and anyways, I'm afraid I spilled brandy on a my dinner jacket and it's not fit for a public appearance. Chippies will be fairly miserable when theres no fish in them, but I hear there's going to be roaring trade in shepherds pies.

A nation living on deep-fried Mars bars

marton · #**23118** 08.10.2019, 18:41

Myself, I believe Boris has a cunning plan to ignore the law, leave the EU with no deal on Halloween and then get reelected on a tide of gratitude from Brexiteers.

Of course, if no deal rapidly turns to disaster then the election may well turn out differently!

Jim2007 · #**23119** 08.10.2019, 18:56

	Quote:	amogles
	There will be mass starvation on the streets of Britain, but fishermen will suffer becaue nobody buys fish?

Most fish landed in the UK is exported. But more of a hit will be that they will not have any EU quotas to sell.

Jim2007 · #**23120** 08.10.2019, 19:05

	Quote:	Ato
	Yes people can eat fish, problem being that people have grown unaccustomed to the fish from British waters. I don't think anybody is going to starve, there will just be a shortage of the products that people have grown used to over the last few generations.

It would be a very big mistake to assume that food produced in the UK is processed and packed for retail in the UK, it is not. Ni milk is send south to Ireland for processing before being shipped to the UK, you've got Irish cheese being shipped to the UK for packaging and UK cheese being shipped to Wexford in Ireland for packing and they are just the ones I know of.