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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 17.10.2019, 17:31
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NEW: Leader of the House Jacob Rees-Mogg confirms gov is planning to move a *single* motion on Sat, presenting choice between this deal & #nodeal, & fulfilling simultaneously the requirements of *both* the #BennAct *and* s. 13 of the EU (Withdrawal) Act (i.e. the #meaningfulvote)

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Already largely killed off in effect. Government lost (yet another) vote, this time on an amendment from Oliver Letwin.
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Old 17.10.2019, 17:34
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Has to be approved by both UK and EU Parliaments.
Neither of which are anywhere near guaranteed. UK vote is too close to call, I can also easily see the European Parliament objecting to a couple of the elements in the deal.
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Old 17.10.2019, 17:35
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Speaking of which, what's Boris's plan to appease the IRA* in the event of "no deal"? Set N Ireland adrift? Hand it back to Ireland and refuse entry to Great Britain for the unionists (although some, I assume, are good people) who live in the north?

*and the people of Ireland, and the USA, and anyone else involved in the GFA
NI demographics mean reunification is going to happen within 10 to 20 years anyway. Although this might accelerate it.
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NI demographics mean reunification is going to happen within 10 to 20 years anyway. Although this might accelerate it.
I can't see the GFA being rewritten to the general satisfaction of everybody in the next 14 days.
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I can't see the GFA being rewritten to the general satisfaction of everybody in the next 14 days.
Nobody will be complaining about EU migrants when a million Northern Irish Unionists flood the UK before re-unification. People will be confused as to which religion's regressive views they should be condemning...no doubt the DM will help out as per usual.
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Old 17.10.2019, 17:50
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NI demographics mean reunification is going to happen within 10 to 20 years anyway. Although this might accelerate it.
There's questions on both sides of the border, it's not a given that the Republic would want a united Ireland.
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Well, you know, I’m kinda not caring about the outcome (Swiss passport holder). As are most of the EU. The whole episode has been a ridiculous fiasco. If you look at the German press or other European countries then you see something that‘s just opposite to what English press are reporting on-line.

Just ridiculous, and whatever the outcome the UK has become a laughing stock.
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Old 17.10.2019, 18:08
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Well, you know, I’m kinda not caring about the outcome (Swiss passport holder). As are most of the EU. The whole episode has been a ridiculous fiasco. If you look at the German press or other European countries then you see something that‘s just opposite to what English press are reporting on-line.

Just ridiculous, and whatever the outcome the UK has become a laughing stock.
Worrying what other people think is always a waste of time.
Germany may be laughing but they are in a recession, UK buys a hell of a lot of German cars. I think the UK will get the final laugh on Germany if a deal is not accepted.
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Worrying what other people think is always a waste of time.
Germany may be laughing but they are in a recession, UK buys a hell of a lot of German cars. I think the UK will get the final laugh on Germany if a deal is not accepted.
You know there is a glaring flaw in your reasoning there, don't you?
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Old 17.10.2019, 18:15
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You know there is a glaring flaw in your reasoning there, don't you?
Not at all, the UK has always had a trade deficit with the EU, it's huge with Germany.
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Not at all, the UK has always had a trade deficit with the EU, it's huge with Germany.
Not that.
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Keir Starmer explains why Johnson's WA is much worse than May's.

Time for a 2nd Referendum.

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/sta...38369735577602
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Old 17.10.2019, 18:19
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'That' i.e. money is what it is all about
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Worrying what other people think is always a waste of time.
Germany may be laughing but they are in a recession, UK buys a hell of a lot of German cars. I think the UK will get the final laugh on Germany if a deal is not accepted.
The good news is we will be able to buy Japanese cars instead. Also at a huge premium as we don't have the trade deal with Japan that the EU does.

Oops.
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Old 17.10.2019, 18:57
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The EU has played this 'statesman'. A deal has been agreed, which is essentially the same as the previous one agreed with TM, the same one that the bozo rejected. It has stated that no extension will be granted. And the bozo will not get the votes in the UK Parliament. So the UK will crash of of the EU without a deal, and only the Tories will be to blame.
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Keir Starmer explains why Johnson's WA is much worse than May's.

Time for a 2nd Referendum.

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/sta...38369735577602

Trick would be deciding what the question would be.


A) Bojo deal ; B) No deal
A) Bojo deal ; B) No Brexit
A) No deal ; B) No Brexit
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What United Kingdom?

Check the cover of your passport.
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The good news is we will be able to buy Japanese cars instead. Also at a huge premium as we don't have the trade deal with Japan that the EU does.

Oops.
I doubt prices will change much, it comes out of manufactures margin as commodity goods are sold for what the market will bear, nothing to do with the cost of goods.
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What United Kingdom?

Check the cover of your passport.
Whatcha talkin' 'bout Willis?
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The EU has played this 'statesman'. A deal has been agreed, which is essentially the same as the previous one agreed with TM, the same one that the bozo rejected. It has stated that no extension will be granted. And the bozo will not get the votes in the UK Parliament. So the UK will crash of of the EU without a deal, and only the Tories will be to blame.
Let’s face it, it’s just an adult game of ‘pass the parcel’. The parcel in this game being the blame on who is responsible for the future of the UK. Now the EU have successfully put the end-result on the UK.
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