The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH - Page 1170

baboon · #**23381** 17.10.2019, 17:31

	Quote:	porsch1909
	NEW: Leader of the House Jacob Rees-Mogg confirms gov is planning to move a single motion on Sat, presenting choice between this deal & #nodeal, & fulfilling simultaneously the requirements of both the #BennAct and s. 13 of the EU (Withdrawal) Act (i.e. the #meaningfulvote) Sneaky

Already largely killed off in effect. Government lost (yet another) vote, this time on an amendment from Oliver Letwin.

baboon · #**23382** 17.10.2019, 17:34

	Quote:	marton
	Has to be approved by both UK and EU Parliaments.

Neither of which are anywhere near guaranteed. UK vote is too close to call, I can also easily see the European Parliament objecting to a couple of the elements in the deal.

baboon · #**23383** 17.10.2019, 17:35

	Quote:	22 yards
	Speaking of which, what's Boris's plan to appease the IRA* in the event of "no deal"? Set N Ireland adrift? Hand it back to Ireland and refuse entry to Great Britain for the unionists (although some, I assume, are good people) who live in the north? *and the people of Ireland, and the USA, and anyone else involved in the GFA

NI demographics mean reunification is going to happen within 10 to 20 years anyway. Although this might accelerate it.

22 yards · #**23384** 17.10.2019, 17:37

	Quote:	baboon
	NI demographics mean reunification is going to happen within 10 to 20 years anyway. Although this might accelerate it.

I can't see the GFA being rewritten to the general satisfaction of everybody in the next 14 days.

#**23385** 17.10.2019, 17:43

	Quote:	22 yards
	I can't see the GFA being rewritten to the general satisfaction of everybody in the next 14 days.

Nobody will be complaining about EU migrants when a million Northern Irish Unionists flood the UK before re-unification. People will be confused as to which religion's regressive views they should be condemning...no doubt the DM will help out as per usual.

Ato · #**23386** 17.10.2019, 17:50

	Quote:	baboon
	NI demographics mean reunification is going to happen within 10 to 20 years anyway. Although this might accelerate it.

There's questions on both sides of the border, it's not a given that the Republic would want a united Ireland.

ZuriRollt · #**23387** 17.10.2019, 17:56

Well, you know, I’m kinda not caring about the outcome (Swiss passport holder). As are most of the EU. The whole episode has been a ridiculous fiasco. If you look at the German press or other European countries then you see something that‘s just opposite to what English press are reporting on-line.

Just ridiculous, and whatever the outcome the UK has become a laughing stock.

fatmanfilms · #**23388** 17.10.2019, 18:08

	Quote:	ZuriRollt
	Well, you know, I’m kinda not caring about the outcome (Swiss passport holder). As are most of the EU. The whole episode has been a ridiculous fiasco. If you look at the German press or other European countries then you see something that‘s just opposite to what English press are reporting on-line. Just ridiculous, and whatever the outcome the UK has become a laughing stock.

Worrying what other people think is always a waste of time.
Germany may be laughing but they are in a recession, UK buys a hell of a lot of German cars. I think the UK will get the final laugh on Germany if a deal is not accepted.

#**23389** 17.10.2019, 18:12

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Worrying what other people think is always a waste of time. Germany may be laughing but they are in a recession, UK buys a hell of a lot of German cars. I think the UK will get the final laugh on Germany if a deal is not accepted.

You know there is a glaring flaw in your reasoning there, don't you?

fatmanfilms · #**23390** 17.10.2019, 18:15

	Quote:
	You know there is a glaring flaw in your reasoning there, don't you?

Not at all, the UK has always had a trade deficit with the EU, it's huge with Germany.

#**23391** 17.10.2019, 18:16

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Not at all, the UK has always had a trade deficit with the EU, it's huge with Germany.

Not that.

#**23392** 17.10.2019, 18:16

Keir Starmer explains why Johnson's WA is much worse than May's.

Time for a 2nd Referendum.

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/sta...38369735577602

fatmanfilms · #**23393** 17.10.2019, 18:19

	Quote:
	Not that.

'That' i.e. money is what it is all about

#**23394** 17.10.2019, 18:28

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Worrying what other people think is always a waste of time. Germany may be laughing but they are in a recession, UK buys a hell of a lot of German cars. I think the UK will get the final laugh on Germany if a deal is not accepted.

The good news is we will be able to buy Japanese cars instead. Also at a huge premium as we don't have the trade deal with Japan that the EU does.

Oops.

Dinivan · #**23395** 17.10.2019, 18:57

The EU has played this 'statesman'. A deal has been agreed, which is essentially the same as the previous one agreed with TM, the same one that the bozo rejected. It has stated that no extension will be granted. And the bozo will not get the votes in the UK Parliament. So the UK will crash of of the EU without a deal, and only the Tories will be to blame.

autopoiesis · #**23396** 17.10.2019, 19:01

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Keir Starmer explains why Johnson's WA is much worse than May's. Time for a 2nd Referendum. https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/sta...38369735577602

Trick would be deciding what the question would be.

A) Bojo deal ; B) No deal
A) Bojo deal ; B) No Brexit
A) No deal ; B) No Brexit
[etc ad nauseam]

22 yards · #**23397** 17.10.2019, 19:12

	Quote:
	Nobody will be complaining about EU migrants when a million Northern Irish Unionists flood the UK before re-unification.

What United Kingdom?

Check the cover of your passport.

fatmanfilms · #**23398** 17.10.2019, 19:34

	Quote:
	The good news is we will be able to buy Japanese cars instead. Also at a huge premium as we don't have the trade deal with Japan that the EU does. Oops.

I doubt prices will change much, it comes out of manufactures margin as commodity goods are sold for what the market will bear, nothing to do with the cost of goods.

#**23399** 17.10.2019, 19:40

	Quote:	22 yards
	What United Kingdom? Check the cover of your passport.

Whatcha talkin' 'bout Willis?

ZuriRollt · #**23400** 17.10.2019, 19:41

	Quote:	Dinivan
	The EU has played this 'statesman'. A deal has been agreed, which is essentially the same as the previous one agreed with TM, the same one that the bozo rejected. It has stated that no extension will be granted. And the bozo will not get the votes in the UK Parliament. So the UK will crash of of the EU without a deal, and only the Tories will be to blame.

Let’s face it, it’s just an adult game of ‘pass the parcel’. The parcel in this game being the blame on who is responsible for the future of the UK. Now the EU have successfully put the end-result on the UK.