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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union
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I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU
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I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK
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I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing
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I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us
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I don't really care
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19.10.2019, 16:01
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| Quote: | |  | | | Measured? I'm trying to measure the range of stances he has had on brexit. | | | | | 
I’m referring to his speech in parliament just now, not his political career.
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19.10.2019, 16:10
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"Brexit is like consent - we can change our minds during foreplay," read one placard. "Pulling out never works," read another.
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19.10.2019, 16:29
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I was impressed with May today. She speaks in a more measured and polite way and doesn't act like the snotty brat that Johnson does. In today's comments in parliament she put her party and country (?) first and said she'd vote for his bill because it delivers Brexit.
Boris voted against May's deal and threw her under the bus repeatedly. He came back with a deal that's mostly hers with a few tweaks, and thinks he deserves credit as the genius of the century. Yet she still supports him. Wow.
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Reason: forgot the word against
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19.10.2019, 16:37
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Letwin amendment passed that's good news.
Boris still says he will not ask for a further delay, so there is no light at the end of the chunnel yet.
Will there ever be.
Hopefully the ship of fools will sink.
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19.10.2019, 17:06
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| Quote: | | | | | Once the whole ordeal is over Laura Kuenssberg could probably write a few volumes on Brexit. | | | | | ...and bankrupt herself in the process. The index would be blank with no source references rendering her books as little more than supposition and anecdote. She's seriously blotted her copybook of late. I find her reporting toothless and gutless, particularly compared to Faisal Islam. | Quote: | | | | | Labour might live to regret this moment because this could mean no deal. They will take a huge beating at the next elections. | | | | | More than Labour voted for the Letwin Amendment, and please don't forget that Letwin is a Tory himself. | Quote: | | | | | I was impressed with May today. | | | | | I was impressed by her double layer gorilla love beads today, a marked departure from the single strand and Marley's ghost chains. You just know she really wanted to say "I effin told you so ya pompous numpty!"
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19.10.2019, 17:07
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Watching Live in Parliament today was almost as exciting as a football world cup!
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| Quote: | | | | | The next extension may be for a budgetary period (5 years) as some of the 27 are getting tired of this nonsense and what a break so the EU can concentrate on other issues. | | | | | That would actually make sense if there was reasonable hope to get a follow-on arrangement done while predictable regulations apply. Unfortunately both history and the present demonstrate that no timeframe will be long enough.
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Wake me when it's all finished!  | | This user would like to thank omtatsat for this useful post: | |
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Theresa May has class.
True emotional intelligence.
They should all learn from her.
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Corbyn is murdering the opportunity for Labour to get in at the next election.
Good.
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| Quote: | | | | | Watching Live in Parliament today was almost as exciting as a football world cup!
Obviously a rugby world cup is far more exciting! | | | | | I watched both, and yes the rugby was spot on.  | | This user would like to thank Raffles for this useful post: | |
19.10.2019, 17:53
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| Quote: | | | | | I know! I never in a million years thought I would ever think that about Corbyn. | | | | | Me neither!
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19.10.2019, 18:06
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| Quote: | | | | | Which deal did they vote for then? | | | | | Oh good grief are you for real? If yes, do some reading. If no, must try harder.
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| Quote: | | | | | Theresa May has class.
True emotional intelligence.
They should all learn from her. | | | | | Indeed, I was impressed by her first speech as PM & again today.
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19.10.2019, 19:47
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| Quote: | | | | | Corbyn is murdering the opportunity for Labour to get in at the next election.
Good. | | | | | We (as a country) would have never been in this situation in the first place if there'd been a decent opposition leader in office. He's appearing more statesmanlike lately, but it's scant compensation for what led us to this place, and let's be having it right, many of us would easily be capable of appearing statesmanlike with such a febrile opponent as the current PM.
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What amazes me is that anyone believed that the alliance between well-heeled Tories like JRM and working/middle class people was ever genuine.
I heard the following a year ago, last time I was in The Smoke: "I voted out, but if I knew then what I know now I'd have never voted for it. And that Boris Johnson's a c#!t!"
London cabbie, from Basildon of all places; verbatim quote.
Not having a confirmatory referendum is akin to telling him (and 17.4m other leave voters) that they've learned nothing in 3.5 years. It's as insulting to them as it is to anyone else.
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19.10.2019, 20:20
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Have the Remoaner MPs scored a massive own goal? Why should the EU grant an extension as an agreed deal by the other EU states is on the table? This afternoon's vote could easily lead to a no deal departure. Bumbling Boris does not have to renegotiate a new deal. Yes, have another referendum with the questions being No deal or the agreed deal.
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19.10.2019, 20:27
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| Quote: | | | | | We (as a country) would have never been in this situation in the first place if there'd been a decent opposition leader in office. He's appearing more statesmanlike lately, but it's scant compensation for what led us to this place, and let's be having it right, many of us would easily be capable of appearing statesmanlike with such a febrile opponent as the current PM. | | | | | So it's Corbyn's fault that
- Cameron didn't get enough from the EU to avoid the referendum, be that his or the EU's "fault"
- Cameron did indeed stay true to his word and had a referendum held
- Cameron did, without the authority to do so, claim that the outcome of the referendum would be respected
- the people voted for Brexit
- May didn't get a deal through pariliament
- BoJo didn't get a deal through parliament either
- BoJo ... nevermind
In short, if the UK didn't have Corbyn they'd have to invent him, didn't they.
Everbody needs a patsy, and if you don't now it'll definitely be handy later.
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19.10.2019, 20:30
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| Quote: | | | | | Have the Remoaner MPs scored a massive own goal? Why should the EU grant an extension as an agreed deal by the other EU states is on the table? This afternoon's vote could easily lead to a no deal departure. Bumbling Boris does not have to renegotiate a new deal. Yes, have another referendum with the questions being No deal or the agreed deal.
EDIT, just seen this
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...OEG8FPWxmnwcGs | | | | | Massive case of bite off the nose to spite the face..
I avoided watching this stuff for years but actually watched the debate for a couple of hours today. Total mess.
As one guy said in an interview afterwards.. Sure have another referendum .. it might go from 52-48 to 48-52 .. Then what, still a nation divided.
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| Quote: | | | | the people voted for Brexit | | | | | Actually it was just some of the electorate (not the people), and less than half of them.
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