The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Meerkat33]

Merkel already said not to rush things, I think her words matter more than those of the king of bureaucracy.

[marton]

	Quote:	Chuff
	The point is they knew a Brexit referendum was happening and still chose Britain. Now the Brexit has happened they still choose Britain.

Please; there has been no announcement from Boeing since Brexit confirming their HQ decision.

The decision was before they knew the result of Brexit and has still to be confirmed after Brexit. I hope they do confirm it.

	Quote:	marton
	Please; there has been no announcement from Boeing since Brexit confirming their HQ decision. The decision was before they knew the result of Brexit and has still to be confirmed after Brexit. I hope they do confirm it.

I take it then, from tomorrow, when business hours resume, UK is open for business and free to engage with the rest of the world?

[Ace1]

	Quote:	Odile
	The UK is in Schengen- since when???

Did anyone claim it was? No, they didn't.

	Quote:	Odile
	Since this year, borders are often un-manned and they have swapped tactics. They now have check posts all over the countryside, on small minor roads, 24/7 and through the night- it's much more effective apparently.

There has been no recent change - you've been talking about this, often on somewhat alarmist terms, for quite a few years now.

Meanwhile motorway crossings into CH are still manned more often than not, and we're checked with about the same frequency as has been the case for the last decade or so, and the smaller crossings are, again as they have been for years, only very occasionally manned, usually just for a couple of hours at random.

	Quote:	AbFab

AbFab, your link didn't work/load.

[22 yards]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	I take it then, from tomorrow, when business hours resume, UK is open for business and free to engage with the rest of the world?

The UK is in the EU. Nothing will change with respect to the trade agreements and rights conferred by full EU membership until Article 50 is invoked, and even then, not until the full negotiation process has concluded — probably more than two years after notice of the intention to withdraw is given under Article 50.

[idefix]

	Quote:	Ace1
	There has been no recent change - you've been talking about this, often on somewhat alarmist terms, for quite a few years now. Meanwhile motorway crossings into CH are still manned more often than not, and we're checked with about the same frequency as has been the case for the last decade or so, and the smaller crossings are, again as they have been for years, only very occasionally manned, usually just for a couple of hours at random.

There have been even less controls in the last 2 years, customs seem to do random checks during certain hours on the border crossings, I have never ever seen any check other than the border, if you really want to smuggle something do it during lunch time, you are 100% sure there will be nobody at the border

Even after the days for the Paris shootings you could pass any FR/CH border without any check, "too many cars" that's what the head of customs said, won't be possible to check everybody

[Chuff]

	Quote:	marton
	Please; there has been no announcement from Boeing since Brexit confirming their HQ decision. The decision was before they knew the result of Brexit and has still to be confirmed after Brexit. I hope they do confirm it.

They said in that Brexit was not a consideration for them regardless of the outcome.Why would they then change their mind, having invested over a billion?

[ZuriRollt]

UBS will definitely be adapting business in the long term. Lots in the press today for anyone interested. I'm not permitted (standard UBS practice) to share internal communications, but for example SonntagsZeitung has some good stuff today.

[cannut]

After some referendums in Switzerland , the question was raised (Here in EF) "If the Swiss people actually understand the question or understand what they doing"


Oh yes we dumb Swiss people

[marton]

	Quote:	idefix
	There have been even less controls in the last 2 years, customs seem to do random checks during certain hours on the border crossings, I have never ever seen any check other than the border, if you really want to smuggle something do it during lunch time, you are 100% sure there will be nobody at the border Even after the days for the Paris shootings you could pass any FR/CH border without any check, "too many cars" that's what the head of customs said, won't be possible to check everybody

"I have never ever seen any check other than the border" around here about once a week; they also do breath tests.

Came out of my place one morning and found an MR2 on my visitor place. Turned out it belonged to an acquaintance who was breathalysed by Customs nearby and she told them to leave at my place. I got to use it for 3 months, bit under powered but a fun car.

[Odile]

	Quote:	idefix
	There have been even less controls in the last 2 years, customs seem to do random checks during certain hours on the border crossings, I have never ever seen any check other than the border, if you really want to smuggle something do it during lunch time, you are 100% sure there will be nobody at the border

Well I live near the border, and so do other people here on EF- and they have been getting stopped regularly both at the border, and away in lay-bys or small country roads- regularly since the tactitcs changed. Nothing 'alarmist' about it- just facts as experienced myself. I cross the border about 10 times a week on average- where there are border posts, and where there aren't, so can see with my own eyes. Also discussed the changes with senior customs' officers who live in the area, who said it was much more effective than previously, and they are based at 5 different border posts, 1 main, 1 secondary and 3 minor rarely manned these days- but when they are they stop everybody and check.

Why is this 'alarmist' Ace?.

[idefix]

	Quote:	Odile
	Well I live near the border, and so do other people here on EF- and they have been getting stopped regularly both at the border, and away in lay-bys or small country roads- regularly since the tactitcs changed. Nothing 'alarmist' about it- just facts as experienced myself. I cross the border about 10 times a week on average- where there are border posts, and where there aren't, so can see with my own eyes. Also discussed the changes with senior customs' officers who live in the area, who said it was much more effective than previously, and they are based at 5 different border posts, 1 main, 1 secondary and 3 minor rarely manned these days- but when they are they stop everybody and check. Why is this 'alarmist' Ace?.

Senior customs officers, CEOs of watch companies...Who else do you get to talk on daily basis up there in the sticks Odile?

[marton]

	Quote:	Chuff
	They said in that Brexit was not a consideration for them regardless of the outcome.Why would they then change their mind, having invested over a billion?

When theory meets reality

I hope they do stay but it was a complete lie to write "they made their decision after the BREXIT vote".

Anyway they plan to move to a new building in London so they could also move to a new building anywhere with no significant loss.

"having invested over a billion" If you check the Boeing UK web site you will see this was not an investment but mostly buying supplies including Rolls Royce engines.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Odile
	The UK is in Schengen- since when??? Anyhow, say that to your friendly custom's officer- at the border - or wherever up to 30km from the border where they are allowed to check- papers, car, goods,etc. Since this year, borders are often un-manned and they have swapped tactics. They now have check posts all over the countryside, on small minor roads, 24/7 and through the night- it's much more effective apparently.

The UK is not in Schengen, if you read what I was replying to you would see the person said they never got stopped driving over the Swiss border.

Problem with school teachers is they always know best btw did you actually give the money to charity......

[marton]

	Quote:	cannut
	After some referendum in Switzerland , the question was raised (Here in EF) "If the Swiss people actually understand the question or understand what they doing" Oh yes we dumb Swiss people

Not dumb enough to stay in Switzerland!

[22 yards]

Ooooohhh, it's hotting up... Now Sturgeon says that Scotland may veto the UK's exit from the EU.

As I've said many times here, Brexit is not a done deal. My money is on the UK staying in the EU, when everything is done and dusted.

[marton]

	Quote:	Stoker177
	Did I say it was decisive?? It was a majority referendum....i.e. 1 vote could win it either way, had remain won I'm sure they would also be less than excited by the prospect of a further referendum...that was the deal and should be abided. And for the record I am in no way a Farage supporter...I'm just tired of the whinging over this referendum which has quite frankly been shite.....it's democracy, love it or loathe it...there's no alternative

Lucky the 3 million EU citizens living in UK had no vote; what was that about taxation with no representation

[ZuriRollt]

It's funny, I can't help feeling that this thread is a pretty good representation of how the vote on the island went - informed or uninformed of the reality and impact.

[cannut]

	Quote:	marton
	Not dumb enough to stay in Switzerland!

Are you leaving ?