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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 28.10.2019, 23:06
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Man, it sounded so good.
Until you went back to square one with the "or something".
A lot of things about Brexit sound good until you get to the bottom of them.
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Old 28.10.2019, 23:26
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Wow, BoJo can't win a single vote in Parliament! No election on 12 December.
Hey Tusk,

I made a typo in the extension request.
Should have been 2021.
Can you change it discreetly so that nobody notices?

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Bills become law only after 25 working days have passed. Guess how many working days there would be for Parliament before an election on 9 December... and 12 December...

The SNP and the Lib Dems are trying to prevent Boris' Brexit deal being approved before Parliament is dissolved for a General Election.
Thank you, this is part of the timelines I was asking for earlier.

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The theory/hope is that one party will gain a decisive majority and therefore a mandate to do whatever they promised to do, or at least whatever they feel like doing after they're elected into government. Each party would lay out their position on Brexit and most probably (for such a momentous decision) the electorate would vote for the candidates from the parties that match their wishes on Brexit. Or something.
Except I am not sure how much the average voter has any interest in Brexit any more?
May tried to frame her snap election as a mandate on Brexit and that went down like a lead balloon.
According to the polls, as an example, interest in the Brexit party has halved since the heady times of the EU MEP election.
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Old 29.10.2019, 00:55
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Bills become law only after 25 working days have passed. Guess how many working days there would be for Parliament before an election on 9 December... and 12 December...

The SNP and the Lib Dems are trying to prevent Boris' Brexit deal being approved before Parliament is dissolved for a General Election.
Just checked what I wrote and I think I got it slightly wrong.

BBC News, which seems to have decided to reduce everything on its website to the lowest common denominator, explains it all in words of not much more than one syllable (or at least, paragraphs of one sentence):

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Parliament has to be dissolved a minimum of 25 working days before the date of an election to allow sufficient preparations to take place.

The government has said it will not try to resurrect the Withdrawal Agreement Bill - aimed at getting Mr Johnson's Brexit deal into law - before Parliament is dissolved for an election.

This is designed to assuage the concerns of the SNP and Lib Dems - who want to fight the election on a platform of stopping Brexit entirely.

But No 10 is currently holding firm on the 12 December date, arguing it would be very difficult for an election bill to pass through both the Commons and the Lords, and receive Royal Assent by 00:01 on Friday in order to meet the 9 December deadline.
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Old 29.10.2019, 01:42
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Regarding this from your BBC quote...

'But No 10 is currently holding firm on the 12 December date, arguing it would be very difficult for an election bill to pass through both the Commons and the Lords, and receive Royal Assent by 00:01 on Friday in order to meet the 9 December deadline.'

The Queen is more than accustomed to staying up late in order to give Royal Assent, and has done so earlier this year, so it's all down to the Lords.
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I could see this heading for the Supreme Court... the fixed terms act would most likely be considered part of the body of law making up the magical constitution in the UK since it defines the life of the sovereign parliament... and the government or the opposition for that matter cannot introduce a bill of a lower order that would circumvent the constitution... based on previous rulings it would first have to repeal the fixed terms act.... Oh Gina where are you?
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Bills become law only after 25 working days have passed. Guess how many working days there would be for Parliament before an election on 9 December... and 12 December...
Just to flesh out your argument...

'Election showdown: Future of Brexit comes down to fight over three days'
https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/201...-to-fight-over
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Just checked what I wrote and I think I got it slightly wrong.

BBC News, which seems to have decided to reduce everything on its website to the lowest common denominator, explains it all in words of not much more than one syllable (or at least, paragraphs of one sentence):
If Boris plans to ignore the two-thirds majority required by the Fixed Term Parliament Act to call an election then why would he not try to ignore the 25 days to dissolve Parliament set by the Electoral Registration and Administration Act?
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If Boris plans to ignore the two-thirds majority required by the Fixed Term Parliament Act to call an election then why would he not try to ignore the 25 days to dissolve Parliament set by the Electoral Registration and Administration Act?
Because he would most likely end up in Court.
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Is Boris looking forward to his Brexit Christmas log jam with Parliament ?

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Old 29.10.2019, 12:50
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Operation Brock stood down due to the extension of Brexit.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-50218276

Now you just have to put up with the "smart" motorway delays.
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No, No, No!



Over the last 30+ years there has (IMHO) been very little appetite for selling off various national assets (BT, utilities, Post Office, etc), etc; however, this was done regardless, because successive governments claimed they had a 'mandate' when in fact they only got in power because the alternatives were so sh!te, and not because the specifics of their policies had broad/majority support.
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Boris economics...

https://twitter.com/PointlessBrexit/...p-coins%2F2%2F

The best bit is the Brexity commemorative 50p piece cost a pound each to mint.

...which are all now going to be melted down!


Brexit 50p coins to be 'recycled' after PM accepts extension
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Old 29.10.2019, 13:03
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Labour says it will back pre-Christmas general election.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-election-date
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No, No, No!



Over the last 30+ years there has (IMHO) been very little appetite for selling off various national assets (BT, utilities, Post Office, etc), etc; however, this was done regardless, because successive governments claimed they had a 'mandate' when in fact they only got in power because the alternatives were so sh!te, and not because the specifics of their policies had broad/majority support.
I can see any large utility sales since May 1991, except the Post Office, thats 28 years. I guess you are too young to remember how long it took to get a phone line in the early 1980's, 6 months was very quick with many people waiting 18 months to be connected.
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I can see any large utility sales since May 1991, except the Post Office, thats 28 years. I guess you are too young to remember how long it took to get a phone line in the early 1980's, 6 months was very quick with many people waiting 18 months to be connected.
Christ, where did you live? The Outer Hebrides?

No way did it take that long.
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Christ, where did you live? The Outer Hebrides?

No way did it take that long.
If you lived in a house with a three mile long driveway, though...
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Christ, where did you live? The Outer Hebrides?

No way did it take that long.
Certainly did in London, shortage of lines prefix would have been 01 340 / 01 348 at the time. 2 digits have since been added giving more lines. Those no's are now 0208 340 / 0208 348. 348 being the Fitsroy estate, people used to answer their phones Fitsroy 3456 in those days
I needed a phone for my company. Applied in October 1981 & got a connection in April 1982.

If only all the BBC Panorama programmes from the late 70's were online, there was an episode about this.
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Certainly did in London, shortage of lines prefix would have been 01 340 / 01 348 at the time. 2 digits have since been added giving more lines. Those no's are now 0208 340 / 0208 348. 348 being the Fitsroy estate, people used to answer their phones Fitsroy 3456 in those days
I needed a phone for my company. Applied in October 1981 & got a connection in April 1982.

If only all the BBC Panorama programmes from the late 70's were online, there was an episode about this.
Damn EU coming along and speeding up all the UK phone-line connection times. Interfering bureaucrats!
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