View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen? |
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union
|    | 49 | 23.11% |
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU
|    | 68 | 32.08% |
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK
|    | 22 | 10.38% |
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing
|    | 23 | 10.85% |
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us
|    | 17 | 8.02% |
I don't really care
|    | 33 | 15.57% |  | | | 
01.11.2019, 15:47
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | Yes. You didn't mention that you have a cold. | | | | | My post was very clear ...cold, no cold, British or otherwise.
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01.11.2019, 15:54
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | Farage has given Boris until 14th of November to agree an alliance - but only on the proviso he drops the Deal. | | | | | I think I've had too much sudafed. Farage has Bob Hope. Less than.
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01.11.2019, 16:05
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Well you must be getting really desperate now FMF. | | | | | So in the meantime folks . . . . . . . .
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01.11.2019, 17:06
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Becoming clearer now. Machiavelian à la Cummings.
So... Boris will soon say 'I wanted a EU Deal and I got you one. But I have to ally with Farage to win election, and he insists I ditch the EU Deal - so oh dear, what a shame - I have to ditch it and accept, very much against my will and better judgement, to go for No Deal. Oh and put NHS, workers' rights, bio safety, GFA, etc, etc - on the table.
You know, needs must- soz.
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01.11.2019, 17:09
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | Becoming clearer now. Machiavelian à la Cummings.
So... Boris will soon say 'I wanted a EU Deal and I got you one. But I have to ally with Farage to win election, and he insists I ditch the EU Deal - so oh dear, what a shame - I have to ditch it and accept, very much against my will and better judgement, to go for No Deal. Oh and put NHS, workers' rights, bio safety, GFA, etc, etc - on the table.
You know, needs must- soz. | | | | | He won't win an egg and spoon race if allied with Farage. He will manage to screw the rest up, however.
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01.11.2019, 17:23
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | He won't win an egg and spoon race... | | | | | I think there's at least 2 DNA labs who would disagree with you there. He's pretty good with eggs, allegedly.
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01.11.2019, 17:34
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | I think there's at least 2 DNA labs who would disagree with you there. He's pretty good with eggs, allegedly. | | | | | Ack... ack... ack...
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01.11.2019, 17:43
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | Ack... ack... ack... | | | | | Yes, he's certainly gone to work on an egg or two.
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01.11.2019, 18:10
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | He won't win an egg and spoon race if allied with Farage. He will manage to screw the rest up, however. | | | | | Yes, we can hope it will backfire, big time.
Many of our UK family and friends are decent, intelligent, Conservatives. They will not vote for an alliance with Farage, for sure. I can imagine some will not just not vote. A few would vote Lib Dem.
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02.11.2019, 10:05
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Well as the General Election campaign gets underway, Boris Johnson will no doubt be welcoming many
new Tory candidates to the fold ( because so many left, resigned, stood down or crossed the floor
of the House to join the LibDems ) yes even Kenneth Clarke, the venerable Father of the House and
Honourable member for Rushcliffe is no more !!
I'm sure many of these new Tory hopefuls will gather at that Broad Church of Conservatism
called The Monday Club on Sunday to hear the Sermon, as written by the ERG delivered from the
Pulpit by the Leader of the Commons, Jacob Rees-Mogg.
Following the Sermon the Tory hopefuls and whats left of the existing Tory MP's up for reselection;
will join the congregation for good old Brexit Psalm singing which include all those old favourites,
repeated after every verse of 'Get Brexit done, The Will of the People and Brexit do or die'
While walking down the aisle, to make sure that the congregation sings in unison and the
all important chorus is sung at the top of their voices & not muttered under their breath,
will stride the dreaded Which Remainer Finder General, Dominic Cummings. Conservatives at Home - Meet the Tory candidates for the 2019 election | This user would like to thank John William for this useful post: | | 
02.11.2019, 11:59
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Just when you thought things couldn't get any stranger...WTAF?!!! | Quote: |  | | | Former Brexit Party candidate for Yorkshire seat says she comes from far-flung star and aliens are 'working with world Governments' | | | | | https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...nts-1-10081127 | The following 4 users would like to thank Blueangel for this useful post: | | 
02.11.2019, 12:55
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | I think there's at least 2 DNA labs who would disagree with you there. He's pretty good with eggs, allegedly. | | | | |
He's certainly fertilized a few in his time and would continue to do so if he can i imagine....  | 
02.11.2019, 13:09
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He takes Proscar; side effects can include impotence and decreased sex drive. Another risk is it blocks the PSA test for prostate cancer as it decreases PSA production in the prostate.
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02.11.2019, 13:28
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Absolutely brilliant find - Not only are the Brexits - Driven by Donkeys - but there's an abundant bunch of
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02.11.2019, 15:09
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | It is claimed the medicine he takes to retain his hair is not helpful in this respect 
He takes Proscar; side effects can include impotence and decreased sex drive. Another risk is it blocks the PSA test for prostate cancer as it decreases PSA production in the prostate. | | | | | Isn't that Trump? Or Johnson as well?
I realise it can be difficult to tell the two apart...
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02.11.2019, 15:33
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My favourite interview of the week was with Ken Clarke upon his retirement. I haven't been able to find a version with decent sound, so you might need headphones for this. | The following 2 users would like to thank Blueangel for this useful post: | | 
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will not be gracing the House of Commons again.
I will miss the Tories like Ken Clarke very much, now were promised the zealots of the Brexit do or Die
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02.11.2019, 19:49
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He added: “If you create a tax regime that is not going to welcome and support people like me who create wealth then you are going to rapidly reduce the health of your economy.”
There is dynamic here. Everyone is... pretty much... capable of creating wealth. One of the things wealth creators do is suppress other wealth creators. This is not immoral. It just happens.
So if "wealth creators" leave then some of those who remain will take their place. And if you think they won't because the system won't encourage wealth creation... then you have entered a circular argument unless you accept that for wealth to be created one needs *both* wealth creators and a system that encourages it.
The sloshing waves on the ocean of wealth are very high right now. I think many of us prefer calmer seas.
I am happy that one of my friends who is typically very liberal economically does support a fair tax level. We may argue what that level is.
Statista.com has this: "In 2018/19 the value of HMRC tax receipts for the United Kingdom amounted to approximately 623.4 billion British pounds." Council tax adds another 28 billion to that
Worldometers says UK pop (live) is 67,651,447.
That works out about £9,500 per man woman and child in the UK.
That's worth thinking about.
Single bloke of average earnings pays about £2500, clearly that would need to double or triple if the rich left https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...zMIKpCreeUiImc | 
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Meanwhile rebellion disaster in Doncaster, not a brexiteer in sight.. | The following 3 users would like to thank for this useful post: | |
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