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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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The UK economy grew at the slowest annual rate in nearly a decade in the third quarter as uncertainty over Brexit continued to weigh on business.

The country managed to dodge a recession, with quarterly growth rebounding to 0.3% after a negative reading in the second quarter.

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And Brexit has not happened yet.

What would the cost of not deciding about Brexit actually be so far? Must be quite a lot of money.
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What would the cost of not deciding about Brexit actually be so far? Must be quite a lot of money.
Probably not quite as high as giving it zero hesitation, and crashing out with no deal without even a sketch of a plan.
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Probably not quite as high as giving it zero hesitation, and crashing out with no deal without even a sketch of a plan.

Of course not but the question is how long you need to extend to make them break even.
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I really shouldn't laugh but... The Plight of the Stood Down Brexit Party Candidate, otherwise known as 'How to get dumped and royally screwed over by a plc masquerading as a political party'.

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Of course not but the question is how long you need to extend to make them break even.
No, your question seems to have centred on the cost of Brexit up to now:

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What would the cost of not deciding about Brexit actually be so far? Must be quite a lot of money.
What "break even" level do you mean? How long it would take for the cost of these multiple extensions to Brexit to match the losses that would be endured had the UK crashed out with zero deal, as it would have been on 29th March 2019?

How can you even quantify that?

Your scenario is unclear.
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Old 12.11.2019, 13:39
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I really shouldn't laugh but... The Plight of the Stood Down Brexit Party Candidate, otherwise known as 'How to get dumped and royally screwed over by a plc masquerading as a political party'.

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I assume Farage has no actual control over them so they can still stand on a Brexit support platform?
Or maybe when they signed up to the plc they gave all their rights away?
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Old 12.11.2019, 18:52
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ISC's report detailing Russian shenanigans around the EU referendum blocked by No.10 until after GE.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...forbritain.org
I am surprised nobody started a House of Commons petition about this.

Also surprised that Farage's peerage does not fall foul of the Honours (Prevention of Abuses) Act 1925. This forbids "gift, money or valuable consideration " to be given in exchange for an Honour.
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The Electoral Commission has been told by the Court of Appeal that they have found against Vote Leave, and that the report can be publlished.
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The Electoral Commission has been told by the Court of Appeal that they have found against Vote Leave, and that the report can be publlished.
I don’t understand. What happened?
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Ah, Schadenfreude!!
I assume Farage has no actual control over them so they can still stand on a Brexit support platform?
Or maybe when they signed up to the plc they gave all their rights away?
It gets better marton. There are now BXP people posting photos of Farage with 'Traitor' written across them, and this wonderful tweet has come from a BXP MEP who has made herself notorious with appearances on Peston and Question Times. You really couldn't write it

Alexandra Phillips MEP
I will be one of millions of people who will not vote at all in the General Election. That breaks my heart. I have voted in every election since I was 18 and been involved in politics for over a decade. And I have been disenfranchised by my own party.
https://twitter.com/BrexitAlex/statu...82863077466112
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Old 13.11.2019, 00:37
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Just a quick aside if I may.

Professor Tanja Bueltmann, migration & diaspora historian | founder @eucitizenschamp
| citizens' rights campaigner is looking for people to help with her latest project. She is looking for British citizens who've lived in EU27/EEA/Switzerland for more than 15yrs. Perhaps a few people here might be interested?

I’m easy to please: give me a vase with flowers in it and I’m happy as 😉😂 But I’d be even happier if some more of you signed up to perhaps join in for my next project. It’s for EU27/EEA/Swiss citizens in the UK & British in EU 15+ years away from UK. ➡️ https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...nC-KA/viewform
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so UK Citizens living in CH don't qualify?
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so UK Citizens living in CH don't qualify?
Read the link? Cleared it up for me...
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Talking about UK accents - sounds and looks like Geoff Boycott, but with a good brain on him

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I don’t understand. What happened?
In July 2018 the Electoral Commission (EC) fined Vote Leave - the official referendum Leave campaign - £61,000 for breaking spending rules, publishing a detailed report in the process.

Vote Leave challenged the EC in a case claiming the ombudsman should not be allowed to publish the report accompanying its findings.

The Court of Appeal has now found that the EC had the right to publish its reports, including the one relating to Vote Leave.

In related news last week, it is claimed evidence that could lead to criminal charges against the pro-Brexit campaign, Vote Leave, led by Boris Johnson and his key adviser, Dominic Cummings, has now been passed by police to the criminal prosecution authorities.
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Sorry to bang on about the plight of stood down BXP candidates, but this tickles me too much. Candidates who have lost thousands over this are being advised that they can claim compensation under 'Unfair Trading Regulations 2008' and 'European Unfair Commercial Practices Directive (2005/29/EC)'. Oh the irony!

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Tesla to build their new plant and R&D centre in Germany instead of the UK citing Brexit as the reason.

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...lant-elon-musk
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I really shouldn't laugh but... The Plight of the Stood Down Brexit Party Candidate, otherwise known as 'How to get dumped and royally screwed over by a plc masquerading as a political party'.

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Tesla to build their new plant and R&D centre in Germany instead of the UK citing Brexit as the reason.

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Beat me to it. So instead of pioneering future energy tech, the UK can now console itself with fracking the sh1t out of pretty market towns.
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Sorry to bang on about the plight of stood down BXP candidates, but this tickles me too much. Candidates who have lost thousands over this are being advised that they can claim compensation under 'Unfair Trading Regulations 2008' and 'European Unfair Commercial Practices Directive (2005/29/EC)'. Oh the irony!
It's the BXP gift that keeps on giving..

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