The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH - Page 1225

Blueangel · #**24481** 17.11.2019, 11:30

Whilst I strongly suspect this will have zero impact upon the general election, it's possibly going to be a very quotable moment. I particularly love the use of 'Gremlin' and the double meaning of it. Does this mean he got her wet and fed her after midnight?

Marton! Start up the popcorn machine please!

'Jennifer Arcuri: Boris cast me aside as if I were a gremlin'

https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1195961819610918913

fatmanfilms · #**24482** 17.11.2019, 18:18

It's often stated it's the old people who voted for BREXIT & their no's are rapidly decreasing. With that in mind I looked at the 1975 referendum results where 17,378,581 voted to remain, the youngest person able to vote then is 62 now & I suspect 2/3 of those who voted in 1975 have either died or were too ill to manage to vote this time. The Majority of the people who voted again would have been under 40 in 1975.

Have yesterdays youngsters changed their mind over time or is the notion that Old fools who voted for BREXIT is a red herring?

#**24483** 17.11.2019, 18:25

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	It's often stated it's the old people who voted for BREXIT & their no's are rapidly decreasing. With that in mind I looked at the 1975 referendum results where 17,378,581 voted to remain, the youngest person able to vote then is 62 now & I suspect 2/3 of those who voted in 1975 have either died or were too ill to manage to vote this time. The Majority of the people who voted again would have been under 40 in 1975. Have yesterdays youngsters changed their mind over time or is the notion that Old fools who voted for BREXIT is a red herring?

Most studies on the demographics of the 2016 referendum seem to point to the older generation voting to leave and the younger generation to remain.

fatmanfilms · #**24484** 17.11.2019, 18:45

	Quote:
	Most studies on the demographics of the 2016 referendum seem to point to the older generation voting to leave and the younger generation to remain.

It's rather like voting for Trump, I have about 500 FB friends in the US & only 2 have ever posted anything positive about him, no's just don't add up.

#**24485** 17.11.2019, 19:32

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	It's rather like voting for Trump, I have about 500 FB friends in the US & only 2 have ever posted anything positive about him, no's just don't add up.

Your FB page isn’t really a poll, is it?

fatmanfilms · #**24486** 17.11.2019, 19:39

	Quote:
	Your FB page isn’t really a poll, is it?

It's a cross section, then a similar 1% admit to being pro BREXIT, silent majority when it comes to the polling day.

#**24487** 17.11.2019, 19:54

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	It's a cross section, then a similar 1% admit to being pro BREXIT, silent majority when it comes to the polling day.

Eh? I think you are confusing the poll data before the referendum with the demographic stats presented afterwards.

bowlie · #**24488** 17.11.2019, 20:23

That majority, silent or otherwise, was not a majority of the people, or the electorate.

fatmanfilms · #**24489** 17.11.2019, 20:56

	Quote:	bowlie
	That majority, silent or otherwise, was not a majority of the people, or the electorate.

The only majority that counts is the one on polling day.
Why the noisy ones were incapable of answering a simple question beats me

bowlie · #**24490** 17.11.2019, 21:17

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	The only majority that counts is the one on polling day.

Surely that majority is moot for an referendum that was not binding, only advisory.

Blueangel · #**24491** 17.11.2019, 21:20

So you're thinking of voting Conservative 2019

How does this work?

fatmanfilms · #**24492** 17.11.2019, 21:35

	Quote:	Blueangel
	So you're thinking of voting Conservative 2019 How does this work?

Are they actors in that one too ?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eaturing-actor

Blueangel · #**24493** 17.11.2019, 22:29

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Are they actors in that one too ?

No. They have each given their name and role.

Current stats that might surprise some people:
There are 650 UK Parliamentary constituencies.
In the current GE, the number of candidates being fielded are:
635 Conservative
611 Liberal Democrat
581 Labour
476 Green
276 Brexit Party
59 SNP
50 Labour Co-op
44 UKIP
36 Plaid

So, Conservatives are standing in 54 more seats than Labour and the LDs are standing in 30 more seats than Labour. I don't know why that is, but I'll be throwing that fact in the face of Owen Jones every time he takes a swipe at the LDs.

https://news.sky.com/story/general-e...-area-11862009

fatmanfilms · #**24494** 17.11.2019, 22:32

	Quote:	Blueangel
	No. They have each given their name and role.

The could still be actors & their names & jobs are what the script writer wrote, not unlike the other Labour film.

TonyClifton · #**24495** 17.11.2019, 23:43

	Quote:	Blueangel
	So you're thinking of voting Conservative 2019 How does this work?

The NHS currently employs 1.5 million people. If you throw more money at it, it won’t get better, it’ll only get bigger. This lady on Question Time this week understands the problem.

https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/...18936863453184

John William · #**24496** 17.11.2019, 23:57

Quote - The NHS currently employs 1.5 million people. If you throw more money at it, it won’t get better, it’ll only get bigger. This lady on Question Time this week understands the problem.

https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/...18936863453184

End Quote.

Well Trump and the Americans are more than willing to asset strip the NHS, they must be lured by the NHS's captive customers - pay up or go elsewhere, patients !!

Blueangel · #**24497** 18.11.2019, 00:35

Watching 'Exposure' on ITV now. Allegedly, the PM was shagging Arcuri for 4yrs behind his wife's back. The filthy herbert!

#**24498** 18.11.2019, 07:58

	Quote:	Blueangel
	No. They have each given their name and role. Current stats that might surprise some people: There are 650 UK Parliamentary constituencies. In the current GE, the number of candidates being fielded are: 635 Conservative 611 Liberal Democrat 581 Labour 476 Green 276 Brexit Party 59 SNP 50 Labour Co-op 44 UKIP 36 Plaid So, Conservatives are standing in 54 more seats than Labour and the LDs are standing in 30 more seats than Labour. I don't know why that is, but I'll be throwing that fact in the face of Owen Jones every time he takes a swipe at the LDs. https://news.sky.com/story/general-e...-area-11862009

It's a historic thing. Look down the list and you will find 50 "Labour Co-op" candidates. These are in effect standing for both the Labour and Co-operative parties simultaneously and for all practical purposes count as Labour candidates. The arrangement goes back to 1927 and you can see brief details here.

So Labour are in reality standing in 4 seats less than the tories and 30 more than the Lib Dems.

#**24499** 18.11.2019, 08:59

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	The NHS currently employs 1.5 million people. If you throw more money at it, it won’t get better, it’ll only get bigger. This lady on Question Time this week understands the problem. https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/...18936863453184

It's actually 1.7 million.

However as a guide to the efficiency of the NHS, the US healthcare industry employs about 18 million people. So 10 times as many in a country with slightly less than 5 times the population.

Afraid that question time woman doesn't understand anything. Of course health care is a political issue and rightly so. In every country.

Blueangel · #**24500** 18.11.2019, 12:33

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	So Labour are in reality standing in 4 seats less than the tories and 30 more than the Lib Dems.

Thanks for the correction and clarification. I knew a few bare basics about them, mainly because the Co-op bank was huge in Manchester before the financial crash, but haven't been able to find out if they take the Labour whip?