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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 19.11.2019, 21:28
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I can go one better. Here is my evidence that evidence is not equivalent to facts.

https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/evidence
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evidence
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...glish/evidence
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...glish/evidence

Witnesses provide evidence in court. What they say may not be factually true.

It would be much less tedious if you'd just stick to the point of discussion.
"Witnesses provide evidence in court. What they say may not be factually true." In that case, it is no longer evidence, it is perjury
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Old 19.11.2019, 22:26
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Is it perjury if they believe it is true, when it isn’t? Eye-witnesses are notoriously unreliable.
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Old 19.11.2019, 22:26
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There's still time to print off your Boris Bingo cards for the debate now, but Deborah Meaden has already called "Bingo!" so we're on round 2.

https://twitter.com/BlandreaJ/status...82883584774145

This link is for the bulls*** bingo card

https://twitter.com/ashgriff123/stat...630528/photo/1
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Old 19.11.2019, 22:50
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Well me myself and I do not feel reassured with either of the candidates during this debate.
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Old 19.11.2019, 23:53
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Diabolical show from both tonight, but this takes the biscuit...

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https://twitter.com/FullFact/status/1196887778736390146

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9209816.html

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4291281.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50482637
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Old 20.11.2019, 09:51
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Following the debate, I don’t think many of the electorate were swayed.

The polls suggest that it will be close and it appears the conservatives will not have enough to force through Brexit.

Plus ça change plus c'est la même chose.
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Old 20.11.2019, 10:14
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Following the debate, I don’t think many of the electorate were swayed.

The polls suggest that it will be close and it appears the conservatives will not have enough to force through Brexit.

Plus ça change plus c'est la même chose.
They could form a coalition government with some party that doesn't really want Brexit. Then there will be a Brexit proposal with a deadline extension. Some Tories will not support the proposal or leave the party. They will replace the PM and then we are exactly where we are now
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Old 20.11.2019, 11:45
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They will replace the PM and then we are exactly where we are now
I think the whole bloody lot of them should have a restore point in early 2010. That's one button I'd definitely press.
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Old 20.11.2019, 15:28
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After an almighty storm, Twitter (TWTR) said that further attempts at deception would result in "decisive corrective action."
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Old 20.11.2019, 19:43
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After an almighty storm, Twitter (TWTR) said that further attempts at deception would result in "decisive corrective action."
In other words, nothing will be done about that clear-cut fraudulent act.

"I'm warning you, you do that one more time and I'll...!!!"
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Old 20.11.2019, 19:47
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After an almighty storm, Twitter (TWTR) said that further attempts at deception would result in "decisive corrective action."
The bitter sweet thing about Twitter is that its user base brutally takes care of errant behaviour all by itself. The Tories got absolutely savaged for that stunt.
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Old 21.11.2019, 00:59
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It takes a hell of a lot to make me angry, but this interview has done it. I can't count how many times today I've heard Tories calling lying "the L word". That's how Classic Dom has coached the Tory cabinet members to deal with being held to account for their bare faced lies to the electorate. Damn them all. Their not worthy of any job.


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It’s a jolly good thing that 99% of people don’t care what happens on Twitter, nor do they share the same anger management issues as many of Twitter’s users. They’re too busy looking at what their friends have had for breakfast on Instagram, or learning how to do their nails on YouTube.
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Old 21.11.2019, 08:31
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It’s a jolly good thing that 99% of people don’t care what happens on Twitter, nor do they share the same anger management issues as many of Twitter’s users. They’re too busy looking at what their friends have had for breakfast on Instagram, or learning how to do their nails on YouTube.
Hang on... a mainstream political party - a party which until recently had formed the government - deliberately commits an act of deception through a recognised means of mass communication, and you dismiss it with a wave of the hand just like that?

The Conservative Party deliberately attempted to mislead the voting public. The Conservative Party: not the Socialist Workers Party or the British National Party, but the Conservative Party.

This is the reason so many erstwhile conservatives have turned away from the party. It has been hijacked. It is no longer the party we thought it was. Maybe - in retrospect - it never was.

They'll certainly never get my vote again.
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Ah, I know who you are. One of the wise men ready to go star gazing in the desert.
We are not worthy. Your knowledge is truly awesome, in its awesomeness.. Can I claim my £5? Or is that rubles?

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Hang on... a mainstream political party - a party which until recently had formed the government - deliberately commits an act of deception through a recognised means of mass communication, and you dismiss it with a wave of the hand just like that?

The Conservative Party deliberately attempted to mislead the voting public. The Conservative Party: not the Socialist Workers Party or the British National Party, but the Conservative Party.

This is the reason so many erstwhile conservatives have turned away from the party. It has been hijacked. It is no longer the party we thought it was. Maybe - in retrospect - it never was.

They'll certainly never get my vote again.
It was a daft gimmick that was noticed and challenged almost immediately. Any regular user of Twitter would have known this would be the outcome, which was likely the strategy as it gets people talking. It’s irked journalists because they (misguidedly) believe that they are the defenders of truth when they have their political agendas and are as economical with the truth as everybody else. The Twitterati have enjoyed their latest moment of indignation, as have many on this forum it seems.
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Ah, I know who you are. One of the wise men ready to go star gazing in the desert.
We are not worthy. Your knowledge is truly awesome, in its awesomeness.. Can I claim my £5? Or is that rubles?

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I’m old enough to remember when David Schneider was funny, and not the tiresome Twitter protester he’s become. Sad to see such a transition. He needs to be careful come December 13th that he doesn’t have a heart attack.
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Hang on... a mainstream political party - a party which until recently had formed the government - deliberately commits an act of deception through a recognised means of mass communication, and you dismiss it with a wave of the hand just like that?
On the other hand, it's nice that we don't have to outsource such fakery to Moscow any more.

British fake news for British people!
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It was a daft gimmick that was noticed and challenged almost immediately.
Which bit of Conservative Party do you not understand?

It is supposed to be the grown-ups' party, not the party of "daft gimmicks".
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It’s a jolly good thing that 99% of people don’t care what happens on Twitter, nor do they share the same anger management issues as many of Twitter’s users. They’re too busy looking at what their friends have had for breakfast on Instagram, or learning how to do their nails on YouTube.
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Full of contradictions aren't you sweet cheeks. Were you busy doing your nails or something when this all happened?
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