The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Jim2007]

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	Again, I'm firmly on the other side of the Brexit divide, but I fail to see any racism in the ad you've linked. Lies about the £350m again, but no racism. What am I missing?

The subliminal message.......

	Quote:	Jim2007
	The subliminal message.......

Really? A guy of indeterminate ethnic origin -- actually he looks vaguely Asian, an ethnic trait very common in those undesirable EU countries...

How about this still from the ad?

[ZuriRollt]

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	An ex-Zurich mate of mine now based in zeist sent me this message earlier... "I saw Coldplay in the Amsterdam Arena on Friday night (the day after). Their set starts with video of fans from each concert that they've been at during the tour so far, wishing everyone a great night. So we saw fans from Argentina, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Brazil, Mexico, France, Spain, Germany, Britain and Switzerland.. Except when the British fans with Union Jack came up on the screen most of the 70,000 strong crowd started booing. My first reaction was WTF? Britain has done something courageous that will probably save your skins (again), so why boo? My second reaction was "welcome to the future".

Sorry, but the general opinion is that the (UK) has done something pretty stupid.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	The subliminal message.......

Precisely. That was the image that really got my back up, then I watched it again to see what other people were in the crowded waiting room.

[JagWaugh]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	And the subliminal message.......

I looked at it pretty carefully and couldn't find any racism or subliminal messages. Short of showing a car with a "PL" sticker pulling in front of the main characters at the front of the hospital, or perhaps a bunch of people wearing lifejackets it would be pretty hard to put into the clip given how mixed the population of the UK is.


The thing is, they don't need to put it into the clip. They knew that the thesis that it is the bloody foreigners that are the problem was there, so all they have to do is push the button marked "your anger is righteous" then mention a large number.

[Mikers]

	Quote:	ZuriRollt
	Sorry, but the general opinion is that the (UK) has done something pretty stupid.

That is indeed the opinion of 48% of the people that voted.

You obviously do nto have much contact with the locals, other Swiss, French, Germans, Italians, etc- their press and TV do you? The spoofs, cartoons, standup shows, etc, have been having a ball- and I'd say the percentage is massively higher than that in Europe.

[marton]

	Quote:	porsch1909
	Nothing to do with Farrage though

True, nothing to do with Farrage!

However this guy Farage tells a different story, video here.

He clearly states the money to be used for Schools, Hospitals, Doctors

[Mikers]

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	You obviously do nto have much contact with the locals, other Swiss, French, Germans, Italians, etc- their press and TV do you? The spoofs, cartoons, standup shows, etc, have been having a ball- and I'd say the percentage is massively higher than that in Europe.

But that doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is British democracy. You have a second petition calling for a rerun, Scotland sayin they will block the exit from the eu, the lib dems saying they will run on a manifesto not to exit the EU, the remain people lining up to say the leave people didn't even understand what they were voting on and everyone barking on about racism.

I don't think I've ever seen such a more corrupt, self serving, unintelligent, stuck up bunch than the people running the remain campaign. They are the ones that should be ashamed of themselves here. Whether it's good or bad for the uk is irrelivent. It's the result. The democratic outcome.

[porsch1909]

	Quote:	marton
	True, nothing to do with Farrage! However this guy Farage tells a different story, video here. He clearly states the money to be used for Schools, Hospitals, Doctors

So all 350 million not on the NHS. Also he said he'd like for the money to be spent on that. Not that it will be spent on that, because he knows as well as anyone with half a brain cell that he has no influence on government spending or on the official leave campaign policies.

Don't get me wrong. I loathe Farrage and I'm a firm remainer. But some of the shit coming out is just silly buggers.

[marton]

	Quote:	marton
	. Why are they happy to wait for the benefits that they voted for, nobody even publishes how long they will have to wait?

	Quote:	Jim2007
	'cause they are all mindful of their own political careers! No one wants to be the one to fail in the negotiations, why do you think they wanted DC to remain on... only he did not play ball.

I actually meant the voters, not the politicians. The politicians position is clear!

Why aren't the voters complaining about the unnecessary delays to get their benefits?

On another topic, if nobody complains about the many political lies then the next election will be even worse; what a country! The EU are lucky we are leaving

Well, the outcome doesn't only affect the British- but the whole of Europe.

Imagine Trump gets elected in the USA- that may well be (gawd forbid) the democratic choice - but the whole world will shudder at the prospect.

[JagWaugh]

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	You obviously do nto have much contact with the locals, other Swiss, French, Germans, Italians, etc- their press and TV do you? The spoofs, cartoons, standup shows, etc, have been having a ball- and I'd say the percentage is massively higher than that in Europe.

Odile: Are you referring to my post, or something that mikers wrote?

Mikers of course. Apologies if that wasn't clear. And JoeUk about people booing at the Cold Play concert.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Mikers
	I don't think I've ever seen such a more corrupt, self serving, unintelligent, stuck up bunch than the people running the remain campaign. They are the ones that should be ashamed of themselves here. Whether it's good or bad for the uk is irrelivent. It's the result. The democratic outcome.

The result is not legally binding.
It has to be ratified by Parliament, 75% of which are hostile to the idea.
Who are they supposed to represent? The people who elected them or the ones who voted leave?

[marton]

	Quote:	porsch1909
	So all 350 million not on the NHS. Also he said he'd like for the money to be spent on that. Not that it will be spent on that, because he knows as well as anyone with half a brain cell that he has no influence on government spending or on the official leave campaign policies. Don't get me wrong. I loathe Farrage and I'm a firm remainer. But some of the shit coming out is just silly buggers.

Hindsight is always correct.

Strange that nobody mentioned Farage's status before the referendum?

[Mikers]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	The result is not legally binding. It has to be ratified by Parliament, 75% of which are hostile to the idea. Who are they supposed to represent? The people who elected them or the ones who voted leave?

They should represent their constituents will, 52% of whom want to leave and 48% want to remain, so they should move with the will of their electorate which is to negotiate to leave the EU.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	The result is not legally binding. It has to be ratified by Parliament, 75% of which are hostile to the idea. Who are they supposed to represent? The people who elected them or the ones who voted leave?

More people voted for Leave than ANY political party. I'd love to see them try and ignore it.

[porsch1909]

	Quote:	marton
	Hindsight is always correct. Strange that nobody mentioned Farage's status before the referendum?

What are you wittering on about? What hindsight? What status of Farage's?

[marton]

Many people here have said the message of the poster/bus was not the NHS would get the 350M per week.
So please do share with us what was the message of the poster?