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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
Voters: 212. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 21.11.2019, 09:50
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It was a daft gimmick that was noticed and challenged almost immediately. Any regular user of Twitter would have known this would be the outcome, which was likely the strategy as it gets people talking. It’s irked journalists because they (misguidedly) believe that they are the defenders of truth when they have their political agendas and are as economical with the truth as everybody else. The Twitterati have enjoyed their latest moment of indignation, as have many on this forum it seems.
Any regular user of Twitter would have seen the blue tick next to the name and could quite easily have assumed it was bona fide.
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Full of contradictions aren't you sweet cheeks. Were you busy doing your nails or something when this all happened?
You’ll have to point out the contradiction a little better as I don’t see one in what you’ve highlighted.
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Old 21.11.2019, 10:07
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It’s a jolly good thing that 99% of people don’t care what happens on Twitter, nor do they share the same anger management issues as many of Twitter’s users. They’re too busy looking at what their friends have had for breakfast on Instagram, or learning how to do their nails on YouTube.
And you think Tory boys wouldn't have been squealing like a bunch of teenage girls at a Little Mix concert if Labour had done the same thing?

Come on, fella, it was a HUGE lapse in judgement and now it has backfired spectacularly.
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Old 21.11.2019, 10:12
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And you think Tory boys wouldn't have been squealing like a bunch of teenage girls at a Little Mix concert if Labour had done the same thing?

Come on, fella, it was a HUGE lapse in judgement and now it has backfired spectacularly.
I doubt it will make any difference, the only people incensed are people who would have never voted Conservative in the first place.
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Old 21.11.2019, 10:13
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Any regular user of Twitter would have seen the blue tick next to the name and could quite easily have assumed it was bona fide.
As a Twitter newbie, can you please explain to me why Larry the Cat hasn't got a blue tick? Also, the Larry calendar is on sale now or anyone who's interested
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Old 21.11.2019, 10:20
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I doubt it will make any difference, the only people incensed are people who would have never voted Conservative in the first place.
Not when the day after this, they also refused to have the Daily Mirror journo included in the press pack on their campaign bus. It's exactly the same as Trump excluding CNN from WH press briefings. This is causing a growing sense of unease. The C4 interview last night is also causing consternation, particularly after Johnson recently dragged C4 abroad for an interview whcih he cancelled at the last moment. Tory ministers claiming C4 News has a left wing agenda is an issue.
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I doubt it will make any difference, the only people incensed are people who would have never voted Conservative in the first place.
What happened to that "silent majority" you mentioned? There might be a huge number of voters quietly making their mind up that the Tories just aren't what they used to be. No need to shout about it on social media, just re-position your X on the ballot paper.
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Old 21.11.2019, 10:24
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Not when the day after this, they also refused to have the Daily Mirror journo included in the press pack on their campaign bus. It's exactly the same as Trump excluding CNN from WH press briefings. This is causing a growing sense of unease. The C4 interview last night is also causing consternation, particularly after Johnson recently dragged C4 abroad for an interview whcih he cancelled at the last moment. Tory ministers claiming C4 News has a left wing agenda is an issue.
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What happened to that "silent majority" you mentioned? There might be a huge number of voters quietly making their mind up that the Tories just aren't what they used to be. No need to shout about it on social media, just re-position your X on the ballot paper.
Lets see the election results, you are both clearly are expecting a Tory collapse. Not long to go
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Old 21.11.2019, 10:38
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Lets see the election results, you are both clearly are expecting a Tory collapse. Not long to go
Nope, not a collapse, just a disappointing result that sees everything going back to square one. Where did you get "expecting a Tory collapse" from? I wouldn't dismiss it entirely, though, they are certainly working hard to make themselves unelectable.
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Old 21.11.2019, 11:37
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Following the debate, I don’t think many of the electorate were swayed.

The polls suggest that it will be close and it appears the conservatives will not have enough to force through Brexit.

Plus ça change plus c'est la même chose.
I believe this will be a difficult election for the pollsters to forecast due to a lot of local variations in voting patterns.
My opinion is also that no party will finish up with an overall majority and this mess will drift on down the road.
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Old 21.11.2019, 11:46
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I doubt it will make any difference, the only people incensed are people who would have never voted Conservative in the first place.
I believe that traditional Tories won't like deceit being employed on a scale that we have seen from the Trump administration handbook, and largely because they can see in real time, exactly where that is ending up. I also believe that the leading Tories are going out of their way to appeal to voters who are a very long way from traditional Conservative values. That will inevitably change the tone of the party as a whole and the Tories I know won't take kindly to that. Mind you, they'd also rarely go north of the M4.
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I doubt it will make any difference, the only people incensed are people who would have never voted Conservative in the first place.
Not true. Not true at all.
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Old 21.11.2019, 13:06
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Not when the day after this, they also refused to have the Daily Mirror journo included in the press pack on their campaign bus. It's exactly the same as Trump excluding CNN from WH press briefings. This is causing a growing sense of unease. The C4 interview last night is also causing consternation, particularly after Johnson recently dragged C4 abroad for an interview whcih he cancelled at the last moment. Tory ministers claiming C4 News has a left wing agenda is an issue.
Channel 4 news does have left wing agenda though. Jon Snow was chanting “f*** the Tories” two years ago at Glastonbury. Channel 4 news’ boss has branded Boris Johnson a “known liar” and a “coward”.

Peter Sissons died recently. He should be sorely missed because he simply read the news. No broadcaster seems to be capable these days of not ramming their own personal agenda as fact down viewers throats.

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I believe that traditional Tories won't like deceit being employed on a scale that we have seen from the Trump administration handbook, and largely because they can see in real time, exactly where that is ending up. I also believe that the leading Tories are going out of their way to appeal to voters who are a very long way from traditional Conservative values. That will inevitably change the tone of the party as a whole and the Tories I know won't take kindly to that. Mind you, they'd also rarely go north of the M4.
A look at any map of the results of the last election would prove that last point to be nonsense. You also don’t appear to appreciate the realignment that has taken place to the English speaking world’s political compass in recent years. Taking aside that Leave/Remain will likely be the key issues which determines who people vote for in the coming election, there has also been a shift parties that best represents people’s values.

In short, wealthy people are more progressive and working people are now more conservative. This is why the Tories are able to go after voters who traditionally would never have voted for them. Whilst Labour have become a grab bag of the very wealthy, the green left, Marxists, antisemites and the welfare classes, the Tories appeal to those who cherish traditional values, the family unit and those that want to have money put into their pockets rather than have it taken out.
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Could this thread be moved to jokes/funnies? Seems Brexit would be better placed there
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Just received my ballot paper. Despite it saying no stamp required.... I'm totally paranoid it won't make it back there without one
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Where please?
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the Tories appeal to those who cherish traditional values, the family unit
Just like their twice divorced, serial philandering, unsure of number of biological children leader?
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Channel 4 news’ boss has branded Boris Johnson a “known liar” and a “coward”.
Sounds like accurate reporting of facts to me. And no, I'm not joking.
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Sounds like accurate reporting of facts to me. And no, I'm not joking.
Wasn't he fired from the Times for lying?
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Could this thread be moved to jokes/funnies? Seems Brexit would be better placed there
Hush now, don’t distribute the Brits when they are trying to decide which kind of disaster is in the best interests of their country.
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