The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

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	I have already answered this question, yes I am British.

The linguistic evidence says otherwise.

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	The linguistic evidence says otherwise.

I dunno what you are talking about DB, Tony says he's from Kievdderminster.

[hairybadger]

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	I dunno what you are talking about DB, Tony says he's from Kievdderminster.

Minskchester? (sorry!)

Selkirkutsk

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	Selkirkutsk

Honestly, how long did you spend coming up with that one?

[22 yards]

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	Honestly, how long did you spend coming up with that one?

Moscow've been a good half hour, I reckon.

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	Honestly, how long did you spend coming up with that one?

Not very long: for reasons not entirely relevant here, whenever invited to think of a Russian city, Irkutsk is always the first one to come to mind...

[hairybadger]

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	Not very long: for reasons not entirely relevant here, whenever invited to think of a Russian city, Irkutsk is always the first one to come to mind...

I'm sure she has fond memories of you, too

[TonyClifton]

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	Do you mean a country which fits with your anti-Corbyn posturing, or a country which is ruled by a socialist party but does not claim to actually be socialist? Like Sweden? Yup, been there. Seemed ok. Everyone happy. Beer was a bit pricey, though.

I don't believe you've looked at Labour's manifesto, nor understand Sweden's socioeconomic history. What Jeremy Corbyn's Labour party is proposing is more radical than what any other country in Europe is doing at the moment. The more attentive of you may have already realised that much of it is not possible with the UK remaining a member of the EU.

A few examples: “powerful interests that are causing climate change” would be expelled from the London Stock Exchange. Any reasonably large companies face having 10% of their value confiscated off them and handed to their workforce. Any sort of pay gap faces being penalised. Show me in Sweden where this sort of lunacy is practiced? If you think Brexit is risky, it is nothing compared to this.

The richest 5% will have to fund Corbyn’s crazy spending spree. In a country where the top 1% already contributes over a third of all tax revenue. Free university, free broadband, free personal care for the elderly, free dental checkups, free everything. This is before you get on to the amount of borrowing required to fund the extra spending for the various utilities and services he wants to nationalise as well the money he wants to throw at the NHS.

The man is an absolute danger. This is student Marxist politics. What would happen were Corbyn to win is that business would leave, the wealthy would leave, the very people who are supposed to fund this madness. The country would be left ruined and destroyed, the same as any other country that has ever tried socialism.

Emotion and hysteria has fully enveloped the Brexit debate, this has been clear for a long time. It is however truly remarkable that so many people have taken leave of their senses that they a) believe what Corbyn is advocating is even possible, b) think it’s preferable to Brexit and c) believe that Corbyn will even prevent Brexit.

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	Not very long: for reasons not entirely relevant here, whenever invited to think of a Russian city, Irkutsk is always the first one to come to mind...

Risk, innit?

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Yes I am British.

I am British as well as being Spartacus!

Tom

[Raffles]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	I am British as well as being Spartacus! Tom

No. I'm Spartacus :0)

	Quote:	Raffles
	No. I'm Spartacus :0)

No, he's Spartak us

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Raffles
	No. I'm Spartacus :0)

OH is technically Spartan I'll fetch me coat...

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	The richest 5% will have to fund Corbyn’s crazy spending spree.

Excellent. I'm looking forward to hearing how loud they squeak before they pop.

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	I don't believe you've looked at Labour's manifesto, nor understand Sweden's socioeconomic history. What Jeremy Corbyn's Labour party is proposing is more radical than what any other country in Europe is doing at the moment. The more attentive of you may have already realised that much of it is not possible with the UK remaining a member of the EU. A few examples: “powerful interests that are causing climate change” would be expelled from the London Stock Exchange. Any reasonably large companies face having 10% of their value confiscated off them and handed to their workforce. Any sort of pay gap faces being penalised. Show me in Sweden where this sort of lunacy is practiced? If you think Brexit is risky, it is nothing compared to this. The richest 5% will have to fund Corbyn’s crazy spending spree. In a country where the top 1% already contributes over a third of all tax revenue. Free university, free broadband, free personal care for the elderly, free dental checkups, free everything. This is before you get on to the amount of borrowing required to fund the extra spending for the various utilities and services he wants to nationalise as well the money he wants to throw at the NHS. The man is an absolute danger. This is student Marxist politics. What would happen were Corbyn to win is that business would leave, the wealthy would leave, the very people who are supposed to fund this madness. The country would be left ruined and destroyed, the same as any other country that has ever tried socialism. Emotion and hysteria has fully enveloped the Brexit debate, this has been clear for a long time. It is however truly remarkable that so many people have taken leave of their senses that they a) believe what Corbyn is advocating is even possible, b) think it’s preferable to Brexit and c) believe that Corbyn will even prevent Brexit.

Which begs the question, how the hell is BoJo going to fund his fantasy manifesto of thousands of NHS staff, coppers, teachers as well as all the other billions in spending without tax or NI increases?

And why haven't the Tories managed to do this in the last 10 years when it was all about austerity?

Did they suddenly find this "magic money tree" which Theresa May spoke of, which managed to bankroll the DUP but nothing else?

[bowlie]

Simples, he is going to sell his antiquated aircraft carriers. I’m sure the Chinese would buy them. He can dispense with the support fleets, tenders and crews for the whole lot as well.

He can’t sell the aircraft because IIRC he doesn’t have them yet.

[TonyClifton]

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	Which begs the question, how the hell is BoJo going to fund his fantasy manifesto of thousands of NHS staff, coppers, teachers as well as all the other billions in spending without tax or NI increases? And why haven't the Tories managed to do this in the last 10 years when it was all about austerity? Did they suddenly find this "magic money tree" which Theresa May spoke of, which managed to bankroll the DUP but nothing else?

The Tories have pledged to spend an additional £3 billion. Labour have pledged to spend an additional £83 billion. That’s £28 Labour plan on spending for every pound the Tories plan.

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	The Tories have pledged to spend an additional £3 billion. Labour have pledged to spend an additional £83 billion. That’s £28 Labour plan on spending for every pound the Tories plan.

Eh? £3 billion won't even touch the sides of the Tories' manifesto?

Have you even read it?

[TonyClifton]

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	Eh? £3 billion won't even touch the sides of the Tories' manifesto? Have you even read it?

I was about to ask you the same thing.