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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 26.06.2016, 19:38
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Let me clear, I hate Farage and all he stands for.

However, the bullshit that is spoken about this.

Quote from the videos:

"What I would like the 10b to be spent on"

The guy did not (as far as i can tell from what I have seen)guarantee anything, he cant, he not and never will be in charge.

There are some fools that believe every twisted bit of media they read.
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

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Use the quote function then, instead of making your posts even harder to make sense of than they already are.
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Old 26.06.2016, 19:56
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Alastair Campbell on BBC news just now tore strips off Johnson and Gove for dividing the conservatives and the country. He said at the news conference, their first appearance after wining Brexit, Gove and Johnson looked like their spaniel had been run over by a lorry. Campbell said they have no answers, and if Boris Johnson makes Prime Minister he will feel ashamed to be British.

It's a political circus. Westminster should sell tickets
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Old 26.06.2016, 20:02
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

all of the minimum wage jobs are under threat from newer EU countries like Romania, Bulgaria and even Poland. Minimum wage in UK - 7.20 GBP and in Romania 1.12 GBP (poland slightly better, bulgaria even worse). EU has expanded too fast and now it doesn't work for common man on the street. I think UK has done well to get out first, there may be short term pain but in the long run they will do well
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Old 26.06.2016, 20:03
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What did you expect Swisstree- didn't you vote for OUT.

It is a circus- but somehow I just can't find it funny. Glad you don't wonder why we have taken over in the 'stupid medals' from the USA.

Iain Duncan-Smith today clearly stated the Leave campaign have no plan whatsoever for the future.

Special Question Time after the BBC news in a few minutes.
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Old 26.06.2016, 20:04
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all of the minimum wage jobs are under threat from newer EU countries like Romania, Bulgaria and even Poland. Minimum wage in UK - 7.20 GBP and in Romania 1.20 GBP (poland slightly better, bulgaria even worse). EU has expanded too fast and now it doesn't work for common man on the street. I think UK has done well to get out first, there may be short term pain but in the long run they will do well
But it's convenient when we talk about doctors and nurses who serve in the almighty British NHS, isn't it? :roll eyes:

There is an exodus of doctors, dentists and nurses from Romania more than any other ex-communist country. Mostly, because of the salaries which don't allow the medical staff to have the lifestyle they deserve. Of course, these situations are not mentioned in tabloids.
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New petition ...

https://www.change.org/p/govuk-if-en...sult-we-desire
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What did you expect Swisstree- didn't you vote for OUT.

It is a circus- but somehow I just can't find it funny.

Iain Duncan-Smith today clearly stated the Leave campaign have no plan whatsoever for the future.

Special Question Time after the BBC news in a few minutes.
I have already told you what I expected, second time you've asked

I don't think anyone finds it funny.

The mess the undemocratic Juncker and Brussels have caused across Europe is also not funny.
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Old 26.06.2016, 20:15
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i think the bulk of NHS doctors & nurses are from subcontinent and south-east asia, anyway the point is absolute free movement of people doesn't work when some countries in EU are so poor, the barrier for entry to EU should be higher and EU can very well help these countries for a number of years to improve living standards, but their objective is grabbing power and control and not improving life for the common man on the street

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But it's convenient when we talk about doctors and nurses who serve in the almighty British NHS, isn't it? :roll eyes:

There is an exodus of doctors, dentists and nurses from Romania more than any other ex-communist country. Mostly, because of the salaries which don't allow the medical staff to have the lifestyle they deserve. Of course, these situations are not mentioned in tabloids.
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

https://www.facebook.com/Oliver.Heal...41575492720794

The petition for a 2nd EU referendum was started before the results were released and by a pro-brexiter.

He basically wanted a re-run if brexit lost but is annoyed that remain want one now and have 'hijacked' his petition.

Couldn't make this shit up.
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Old 26.06.2016, 20:28
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Who cares about the bloody poster?! This referendum wasn't won and lost on a poster.
Agreed, it was won and lost on who told the most plausible story. The accuracy of which on both sides was at best tenuous.
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Alastair Campbell on BBC news just now tore strips off Johnson and Gove for dividing the conservatives and the country. He said at the news conference, their first appearance after wining Brexit, Gove and Johnson looked like their spaniel had been run over by a lorry. Campbell said they have no answers, and if Boris Johnson makes Prime Minister he will feel ashamed to be British.

It's a political circus. Westminster should sell tickets
Hopefully the Spaniel is OK? The rest is a joke, with unbelievable consequences and impact.
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anyway the point is absolute free movement of people doesn't work when some countries in EU are so poor, the barrier for entry to EU should be higher and EU can very well help these countries for a number of years to improve living standards, but their objective is grabbing power and control and not improving life for the common man on the street
"Help" these "poor" countries? They are contributors to the EU budget, in case you didn't know. It's a duty of each member country to pay its contribution to the common budget.
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BBC Question Time: An EU Special just started on BBC 1.
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for anyone who hasn't read it: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/201...morning-after/
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"Help" these "poor" countries? They are contributors to the EU budget, in case you didn't know. It's a duty of each member country to pay its contribution to the common budget.
"the establishment of free labor mobility among culturally diverse countries with very different income levels, without careful thought about how that would work." by Paul Krugman great minds think alike!!

status quo is not the answer, EU needs a wake up call. If EU and UK learn lessons from this, they can be very successful or else doom and gloom for long time
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https://www.facebook.com/Oliver.Heal...41575492720794

The petition for a 2nd EU referendum was started before the results were released and by a pro-brexiter.

He basically wanted a re-run if brexit lost but is annoyed that remain want one now and have 'hijacked' his petition.

Couldn't make this shit up.
Saw this too. How hilarious.

So the anti Brexiters concur with the pro Brexiters that if the lose the rules need to be changed?
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"the establishment of free labor mobility among culturally diverse countries with very different income levels, without careful thought about how that would work." ...
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What is this referring to?
The gap between poor places like the UK and developed countries like e.g. Switzerland?
Remember MEI?
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I'm amazed how people can't see the obvious now.

The worst possible solution after this vote is to stay in the EU.

Imagine how people will feel to be obliged to be members in an undemocratic way. Can you imagine the eurosceptics than!?

Slovenia wanted out of yugoslavia. Belgrade went against the will of the people and we all know how that ended. I see a lot of similarities here, so thread carefully.

Give people what they wanted, they wanted out of EU and wanted independence. Unless that happens I foresee some bad stuff in the future. You'd wish than to have respected the will of the people.
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Hilarious article, coming from a country as fundamentally ****** up as America.

Even with a Brexit, our country is still 100x less racist, 100x less dangerous, and more politically open and democratic than the U.S and the embarrassing circus it calls "presidential elections".
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