The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

	Quote:	marton
	Many people here have said the message of the poster/bus was not the NHS would get the 350M per week. So please do share with us what was the message of the poster?

Who cares about the bloody poster?! This referendum wasn't won and lost on a poster.

[amogles]

	Quote:	Mikers
	But that doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is British democracy. You have a second petition calling for a rerun, Scotland sayin they will block the exit from the eu, the lib dems saying they will run on a manifesto not to exit the EU, the remain people lining up to say the leave people didn't even understand what they were voting on and everyone barking on about racism. I don't think I've ever seen such a more corrupt, self serving, unintelligent, stuck up bunch than the people running the remain campaign. They are the ones that should be ashamed of themselves here. Whether it's good or bad for the uk is irrelivent. It's the result. The democratic outcome.

This, and the fact that the normal decent thing in a democracy is that when you lose a vote is that you lick your wounds, try and learn from your mistakes, but above all concede defeat and live with the result.

Cameron did the only honourable thing. A pity that others don't get that.

Try and learn from the Swiss. Outside of the EF, have you heard many people banging on about minarets lately, or preventing the second Gotthard road tunnel, or the 12:1 initiative? Neither have I.

The number of people who are anti democratic is worrying. You don't see this amount of bitching in Switzerland after a close run referendum. Britain got out just in time it seems.

[Connor MacLeod]

Let me clear, I hate Farage and all he stands for.

However, the bullshit that is spoken about this.

Quote from the videos:

"What I would like the £10b to be spent on"

The guy did not (as far as i can tell from what I have seen)guarantee anything, he cant, he not and never will be in charge.

There are some fools that believe every twisted bit of media they read.

[Chuff]

	Quote:	Odile
	Mikers of course. Apologies if that wasn't clear. And JoeUk about people booing at the Cold Play concert.

Use the quote function then, instead of making your posts even harder to make sense of than they already are.

[Swisstree]

Alastair Campbell on BBC news just now tore strips off Johnson and Gove for dividing the conservatives and the country. He said at the news conference, their first appearance after wining Brexit, Gove and Johnson looked like their spaniel had been run over by a lorry. Campbell said they have no answers, and if Boris Johnson makes Prime Minister he will feel ashamed to be British.

It's a political circus. Westminster should sell tickets

[pk01]

all of the minimum wage jobs are under threat from newer EU countries like Romania, Bulgaria and even Poland. Minimum wage in UK - 7.20 GBP and in Romania 1.12 GBP (poland slightly better, bulgaria even worse). EU has expanded too fast and now it doesn't work for common man on the street. I think UK has done well to get out first, there may be short term pain but in the long run they will do well

[Odile]

What did you expect Swisstree- didn't you vote for OUT.

It is a circus- but somehow I just can't find it funny. Glad you don't wonder why we have taken over in the 'stupid medals' from the USA.

Iain Duncan-Smith today clearly stated the Leave campaign have no plan whatsoever for the future.

Special Question Time after the BBC news in a few minutes.

[greenmount]

	Quote:	pk01
	all of the minimum wage jobs are under threat from newer EU countries like Romania, Bulgaria and even Poland. Minimum wage in UK - 7.20 GBP and in Romania 1.20 GBP (poland slightly better, bulgaria even worse). EU has expanded too fast and now it doesn't work for common man on the street. I think UK has done well to get out first, there may be short term pain but in the long run they will do well

But it's convenient when we talk about doctors and nurses who serve in the almighty British NHS, isn't it? :roll eyes:

There is an exodus of doctors, dentists and nurses from Romania more than any other ex-communist country. Mostly, because of the salaries which don't allow the medical staff to have the lifestyle they deserve. Of course, these situations are not mentioned in tabloids.

[amogles]

New petition ...

https://www.change.org/p/govuk-if-en...sult-we-desire

[Swisstree]

	Quote:	Odile
	What did you expect Swisstree- didn't you vote for OUT. It is a circus- but somehow I just can't find it funny. Iain Duncan-Smith today clearly stated the Leave campaign have no plan whatsoever for the future. Special Question Time after the BBC news in a few minutes.

I have already told you what I expected, second time you've asked

I don't think anyone finds it funny.

The mess the undemocratic Juncker and Brussels have caused across Europe is also not funny.

[pk01]

i think the bulk of NHS doctors & nurses are from subcontinent and south-east asia, anyway the point is absolute free movement of people doesn't work when some countries in EU are so poor, the barrier for entry to EU should be higher and EU can very well help these countries for a number of years to improve living standards, but their objective is grabbing power and control and not improving life for the common man on the street

	Quote:	greenmount
	But it's convenient when we talk about doctors and nurses who serve in the almighty British NHS, isn't it? :roll eyes: There is an exodus of doctors, dentists and nurses from Romania more than any other ex-communist country. Mostly, because of the salaries which don't allow the medical staff to have the lifestyle they deserve. Of course, these situations are not mentioned in tabloids.

[porsch1909]

https://www.facebook.com/Oliver.Heal...41575492720794

The petition for a 2nd EU referendum was started before the results were released and by a pro-brexiter.

He basically wanted a re-run if brexit lost but is annoyed that remain want one now and have 'hijacked' his petition.

Couldn't make this shit up.

[JoeUK]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Who cares about the bloody poster?! This referendum wasn't won and lost on a poster.

Agreed, it was won and lost on who told the most plausible story. The accuracy of which on both sides was at best tenuous.

[ZuriRollt]

	Quote:	Swisstree
	Alastair Campbell on BBC news just now tore strips off Johnson and Gove for dividing the conservatives and the country. He said at the news conference, their first appearance after wining Brexit, Gove and Johnson looked like their spaniel had been run over by a lorry. Campbell said they have no answers, and if Boris Johnson makes Prime Minister he will feel ashamed to be British. It's a political circus. Westminster should sell tickets

Hopefully the Spaniel is OK? The rest is a joke, with unbelievable consequences and impact.

[greenmount]

	Quote:	pk01
	anyway the point is absolute free movement of people doesn't work when some countries in EU are so poor, the barrier for entry to EU should be higher and EU can very well help these countries for a number of years to improve living standards, but their objective is grabbing power and control and not improving life for the common man on the street

"Help" these "poor" countries? They are contributors to the EU budget, in case you didn't know. It's a duty of each member country to pay its contribution to the common budget.

[Swisstree]

BBC Question Time: An EU Special just started on BBC 1.

[ntem]

for anyone who hasn't read it: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/201...morning-after/

[pk01]

	Quote:	greenmount
	"Help" these "poor" countries? They are contributors to the EU budget, in case you didn't know. It's a duty of each member country to pay its contribution to the common budget.

"the establishment of free labor mobility among culturally diverse countries with very different income levels, without careful thought about how that would work." by Paul Krugman great minds think alike!!

status quo is not the answer, EU needs a wake up call. If EU and UK learn lessons from this, they can be very successful or else doom and gloom for long time

[amogles]

	Quote:	porsch1909
	https://www.facebook.com/Oliver.Heal...41575492720794 The petition for a 2nd EU referendum was started before the results were released and by a pro-brexiter. He basically wanted a re-run if brexit lost but is annoyed that remain want one now and have 'hijacked' his petition. Couldn't make this shit up.

Saw this too. How hilarious.

So the anti Brexiters concur with the pro Brexiters that if the lose the rules need to be changed?