The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH - Page 1245

#**24881** 28.11.2019, 21:59

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Channel 4 now... Attachment 138257 https://twitter.com/alexwickham/stat...12699021115392

‘Melt’. A description probably not too far off the mark...

Jim2007 · #**24882** 29.11.2019, 02:39

	Quote:
	You're being a bit snowflakey here, I said on a point of pedantry you were correct - I'm not sure that is really bullying. You are essentially admitting that in the absence of an EU/CAN Treaty reworking, financial services will not be part of any deal , so everyone else's point remains; for Britain it cannot be as good a deal as we have pre-Brexit.

Barnier said already said it and Big Phil said it again recently - financial services are off the table unless the UK accepts the supervision of the ECB etc and the jurisdiction of the ECJ. They are not going to allow any third country to be in a position to operate in their markets unsupervised.

Blueangel · #**24883** 29.11.2019, 10:46

The bared faced lies being peddled last night by Michael Gove in this video were utterly gobsmacking. I've never, ever seen a main stream political party, the party who were the government a few weeks ago, resort to the divisive media tactics frequently used by the far right to distort and disinform the electorate. Clasic Dom. Classic Tommy Robinson.

https://twitter.com/DeborahMeaden/st...95438894354434

The truth of the issue is that the Conservatives declined the invitation to appear because they didn't agree with participating in a single issue debate as the subject matter cut across many of their other policies, so they would only debate them as a whole package. At the last minute, Johnson sent his dad...HIS DAD!!!!...to take the podium. He was latter joined by Gove. The other leaders were asked if they would accept Gove and they declined because it was a leaders debate.

#**24884** 29.11.2019, 10:52

	Quote:	Blueangel
	The bared faced lies being peddled last night by Michael Gove in this video were utterly gobsmacking. I've never, ever seen a main stream political party, the party who were the government a few weeks ago, resort to the divisive media tactics frequently used by the far right to distort and disinform the electorate. Clasic Dom. Classic Tommy Robinson. https://twitter.com/DeborahMeaden/st...95438894354434 The truth of the issue is that the Conservatives declined the invitation to appear because they didn't agree with participating in a single issue debate as the subject matter cut across many of their other policies, so they would only debate them as a whole package. At the last minute, Johnson sent his dad...HIS DAD!!!!...to take the podium. He was latter joined by Gove. The other leaders were asked if they would accept Gove and they declined because it was a leaders debate.

Quite right to tell him to piss off, too. What makes them think they are so precious they can pick and choose who to send to a leaders' debate?

#**24885** 29.11.2019, 11:41

Johnson is running scared of any serious interview, not just the climate debate. Still refusing to have a session with brillo pad.

#**24886** 29.11.2019, 11:43

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	Johnson is running scared of any serious interview, not just the climate debate. Still refusing to have a session with brillo pad.

Top leader material, that's what he is.

#**24887** 29.11.2019, 11:50

	Quote:
	Johnson is running scared of any serious interview, not just the climate debate. Still refusing to have a session with brillo pad.

He should double down and say he won't debate Neil until they find out why Neil had two entries in Epstein's little black book.

Obviously, the real reason it isn't being pursued is that the Spectator got an interview with him instead - the current editor, interviewing a previous editor, powderpuff.

Oh, and Neil is chairman of the group that owns the Spectator.

Not dodgy at all.

Blueangel · #**24888** 29.11.2019, 12:21

	Quote:
	Top leader material, that's what he is.

Rufus, don't watch this clip from this morning if you have any blood pressure issues whatsoever.

https://twitter.com/cliodiaspora/sta...65690533883904

But the best from this morning is the PM forgetting that LBC interviews are also filmed...

https://twitter.com/FoundationFND/st...55078131113986

marton · #**24889** 30.11.2019, 00:33

Wash, rinse and repeat

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	Boris Johnson has seen his projected Commons majority slashed from 80 to just 12 seats in a week as Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour party eats into the Conservatives’ lead, a poll of polls has revealed. The survey - based on almost 10,000 voters - shows Jeremy Corbyn closing the gap on the Tories in the same way as Theresa May’s lead collapsed after her manifesto launch and her refusal to appear in TV debates.

Source

Oh no, not another hung Parliament! Aaaaahhhhh!!

#**24890** 30.11.2019, 00:52

	Quote:	marton
	Wash, rinse and repeat Source Oh no, not another hung Parliament! Aaaaahhhhh!!

It's all awful.

marton · #**24891** 30.11.2019, 10:58

@TonyClifton

It is clear from the three and a half year mess that the British Parliament has made of implementing Brexit that, ipso facto, taking control is not a benefit.

Many Brexiteers are even going so far as to label MPs as traitors so obviously the less control Parliament has the better.

If you label taking control as giving power to the people then it has been proven they have no power, Parliament has the power. When the people had the chance in the last general election to give Theresa the mandate she requested to deliver Brexit they did not deliver.

Blueangel · #**24892** 01.12.2019, 22:57

Just a couple of reference links for anyone concerned about the terrorist sentencing question and answers on tonight's election debate.

'10 things you should know about the London Bridge attacker and “early release”'
https://thesecretbarrister.com/

...and how the PM has allegedly plagiarised the above blog post...

https://www.newsweek.com/boris-johns...logger-1474926

But what concerns me tonight is the OM's stand in babbling on about it being the fault of ECHR law which the Tories are absolutely desperate to overturn or overhaul.

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	This is another lie, this time by @RishiSunak , the Prime Minister’s stand-in. The European Court of Human Rights had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the sentence of Usman Khan. #FakeLaw

https://twitter.com/BarristerSecret/...20516029386760

curley · #**24893** 01.12.2019, 23:26

Aaawwww, Blueangel, nobody touched this thread all day and it was just gonna become the best day of the year ......

Blueangel · #**24894** 01.12.2019, 23:56

Sorry Curley.
Just trying to catch up on tonight's TV debate and, to be honest, there's three women there running rings round most of the men 😉

greenmount · #**24895** 02.12.2019, 09:13

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Rufus, don't watch this clip from this morning if you have any blood pressure issues whatsoever. https://twitter.com/cliodiaspora/sta...65690533883904 But the best from this morning is the PM forgetting that LBC interviews are also filmed... https://twitter.com/FoundationFND/st...55078131113986

Reporter: "....They are calling your son Pinocchio..."

Boris's father: "Pinocchio?? That requires a degree of literacy, which I knew the great British public doesn't necessarily have.."

When pressured, they really speak their mind, don't they? ...

marton · #**24896** 02.12.2019, 21:22

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Just a couple of reference links for anyone concerned about the terrorist sentencing question and answers on tonight's election debate. '10 things you should know about the London Bridge attacker and “early release”' https://thesecretbarrister.com/ ...and how the PM has allegedly plagiarised the above blog post... https://www.newsweek.com/boris-johns...logger-1474926 But what concerns me tonight is the OM's stand in babbling on about it being the fault of ECHR law which the Tories are absolutely desperate to overturn or overhaul. https://twitter.com/BarristerSecret/...20516029386760

Just to be clear the EHCR is nothing to with the EU, it is a group of 47 States.
And you are correct the Tories are keen to overturn the UK Human Rights Act

The Human Rights Act (HRA) allows the rights guaranteed by the ECHR to be enforced in UK courts – increasing everyone’s access to justice in UK.

greenmount · #**24897** 03.12.2019, 08:03

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	A destabilized EU would be a far greater prize for Putin than some mid-sized European country having the dust blown off its superseded, worn-out "traditions".

You have to admit that Russia's techniques are quite atypical. Asymmetric war or how do they call it?
It's ironic that exactly that internet that Putin hates so much is also helping him achieve their goals little by little. If only this internet was just one way....oh wait, it will be. (Meantime I heard Putin is getting more and more fans...)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50259597

TonyClifton · #**24898** 03.12.2019, 08:18

	Quote:	greenmount
	(Meantime I heard Putin is getting more and more fans...) https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50259597

In the Labour Party?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN1Y620A

greenmount · #**24899** 03.12.2019, 08:47

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	In the Labour Party? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN1Y620A

The article you mentioned proves exactly...what???? ...

Oh, I got it, you wouldn't miss a chance on this forum to mention Labour Party, it doesn't matter how, when and why.

marton · #**24900** 03.12.2019, 09:57

Trump's schedule at this weeks NATO leaders' meetings in London is filled with bilateral meetings with other European leaders, but in what is surely unprecedented scheduling, the US President will not sit down for a one-on-one with Boris, the leader of the host country.

The White House explanation will make British and American voters laugh, The President, said an administration official, is "absolutely cognizant" of the importance of not interfering in other country's elections.

The reality is that Boris knows Trump is deeply unpopular in the UK so he does not want to be seen with him before the GE!