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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

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"the establishment of free labor mobility among culturally diverse countries with very different income levels, without careful thought about how that would work." ...
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What is this referring to?
The gap between poor places like the UK and developed countries like e.g. Switzerland?
Remember MEI?
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I'm amazed how people can't see the obvious now.

The worst possible solution after this vote is to stay in the EU.

Imagine how people will feel to be obliged to be members in an undemocratic way. Can you imagine the eurosceptics than!?

Slovenia wanted out of yugoslavia. Belgrade went against the will of the people and we all know how that ended. I see a lot of similarities here, so thread carefully.

Give people what they wanted, they wanted out of EU and wanted independence. Unless that happens I foresee some bad stuff in the future. You'd wish than to have respected the will of the people.
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Old 26.06.2016, 19:58
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Hilarious article, coming from a country as fundamentally ****** up as America.

Even with a Brexit, our country is still 100x less racist, 100x less dangerous, and more politically open and democratic than the U.S and the embarrassing circus it calls "presidential elections".
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Hilarious article, coming from a country as fundamentally ****** up as America.
It doesn't come from america. It comes from Krugman.
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Old 26.06.2016, 20:05
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Petition is being investigated for fraud.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-...endum-36634407

However, the fact that someone from outside the UK signed it doesn't mean their signature is fraudulant. I could sign it and it's perfectly legitimate because I'm a British citzen.

And as I pointed out pages ago, it has no chance anyway because it's asking for a rule to be implemented after the event. Rules have to be in place beforehand so everyone knows exactly where they stand.
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Old 26.06.2016, 20:16
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Petition is being investigated for fraud.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-...endum-36634407

However, the fact that someone from outside the UK signed it doesn't mean their signature is fraudulant. I could sign it and it's perfectly legitimate because I'm a British citzen.

And as I pointed out pages ago, it has no chance anyway because it's asking for a rule to be implemented after the event. Rules have to be in place beforehand so everyone knows exactly where they stand.


I read the blurbies at the bottom of the petition website, they claim that they cross check the entries.
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Old 26.06.2016, 20:20
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I read the blurbies at the bottom of the petition website, they claim that they cross check the entries.
Which is why they've removed 77,200 already.
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Which is why they've removed 77,200 already.
Those are probably from Dodgyken...
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Old 26.06.2016, 20:48
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They should represent their constituents will, 52% of whom want to leave and 48% want to remain, so they should move with the will of their electorate which is to negotiate to leave the EU.
It's not quite that simple, legally and ethically.

Just take my constituency for example, Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead.

Remain: 53.9%
Leave: 46.1%

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36616028

The MP for this constituency announced his intention to vote Leave before the referendum.

http://www.windsorobserver.co.uk/new...EU_referendum/
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It's not quite that simple, legally and ethically.

Just take my constituency for example, Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead.
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Or that most were down at the Slug and Lettuce at the time ;-)
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Well, one good thing that's come out of all of this is that the self-described "progressives" have demonstrated quite how much contempt they have for ordinary people.

Always good to see people's true colours.
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Saw this too. How hilarious.

So the anti Brexiters concur with the pro Brexiters that if the lose the rules need to be changed?
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Always good to see people's true colours.

Interesting how progressives are all of a sudden so very conservative when change occurs not to their liking. What goes around comes around.

Its a great opportunity to learn about conservatism.
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What is this referring to?
The gap between poor places like the UK and developed countries like e.g. Switzerland?
Remember MEI?
Thanks for your post, Bucentaure.
I won't even bother anymore to point out how ridiculous and arrogant their statements are... Such an absurd sense of entitlement..

We're hiding behind our C permits and alpine lives, we're good now.

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We're hiding behind our C permits and alpine lives, we're good now.
And some of us live comfortably with our UK pensions here in Switzerland rather than spend the hard earned GBP in the UK, but that won't last long.
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There is a concerted effort to punish the UK for Brexit. The EU have stated this to dissuade other members from leaving. Even embittered Remainers may work against national interests to vindicate themselves.

I think the government should consider these reactions as an issue of national interests and security. They need to track the impact of these punitive measures and make sure they are not left unanswered. They need to start counting.

Cameron is being an asshole and prick for resigning the way he did. This whole referendum is his baby, and he needs to own up to the results. Its not about his personal hurt feeling for not being believed, its a national interest issue at this point. He needs to retract his arbitrary resignation until he sees this through. He can't just hand this to Boris like this.
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It's now 21:50.

No-one on the EF has made any notable contribution as input to this historic event.

Going to bed now.
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It's now 21:50.

No-one on the EF has made any notable contribution as input to this historic event.

Going to bed now.
What about Odile's persistence: "It simply can not go this way, we need another vote, the bus said we will have money for the NHS!"
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What about Odile's persistence: "It simply can not go this way, we need another vote, the bus said we will have money for the NHS!"
It appears to have been a misprint.
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Anyway, as I was saying earlier: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a7102646.html
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There is a concerted effort to punish the UK for Brexit. The EU have stated this to dissuade other members from leaving. Even embittered Remainers may work against national interests to vindicate themselves.

I think the government should consider these reactions as an issue of national interests and security. They need to track the impact of these punitive measures and make sure they are not left unanswered. They need to start counting.

Cameron is being an asshole and prick for resigning the way he did. This whole referendum is his baby, and he needs to own up to the results. Its not about his personal hurt feeling for not being believed, its a national interest issue at this point. He needs to retract his arbitrary resignation until he sees this through. He can't just hand this to Boris like this.
Don't be so ridiculous. Cameron publically staked his premiership on this referendum. The commitment to a referendum was key to the Conservative victory in the last general election. Of course it's natural that he should resign when it is evident that the people's will is opposed to his aims.

Are you trying to tell me that public figures in your country are unaccountable to the public?
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